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Former Union Leader Opposes Card Check Bill
The City Wire of Fort Smith, Arkansas, published a piece giving a former union leader space to announce that he opposes the elimination of the secret ballot that is the card check feature of the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA).
His reasoning is spot on with why card check is a bad idea that will materially hurt American workers.
And then there is Neal Catlett, a former president of the union representing workers at Whirlpool’s Fort Smith plant who has more than 20 years of leadership experience in the local union.
Catlett, now retired from Whirlpool, opposes card check. He told The City Wire that he has seen plenty of “nonsense” among Whirlpool leaders and union leaders to know that anything other than a secret ballot will lead to intimidation, coercion and corruption on all sides.
“I strongly support secret ballots. Period. It doesn’t matter at what level, whether it is voting for a union or the president or your congressman,” Catlett said. “Your ideas should be personal as to if you want a union or don’t want a union.”
Catlett doesn’t argue with union leaders who say the current labor rules make it too tough and are tilted in the favor of business. But he says card check is the wrong way to create a more level playing field. And he also says unions use the same coercion and intimidation used by business owners.
“Doing away with the secret ballot is not good for the unions. It’s not good for any business. ... Open voting creates an atmosphere of intimidation. It creates an atmosphere where people will use your opinion against you. I’ve seen the threats and I’ve actually seen the physical conflict, if you know what I mean, come from the business side and from the union side,” Catlett said. “I just don’t see how any process that is not private will protect the worker.”
Right from the mouth of a former union boss and right on. Union thugs will be unleashed by this bill. It needs to be torpedoed.
There's still much work ahead to defeat this un-American and anti-democratic law.
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Amazing
Amazing - someone found one shop steward who opposed EFCA. That hardly makes your case, now, does it? Maybe he is being paid, like Saul Anuzis - who also used to be in a union. How how doubly amazing that this hithertofore unkown person was found and reported on in Arkansas. Arkansas....I seem to recall there being an incredibly large and powerful corporation in Arkansas that is dead set against EFCA. Newt is paying Saul Anuzis to come on this board to attack EFCA - ever wonder who is paying Newt?
Oh yes, I remember now - it is Wal-Mart! From that commie pinko WSJ:
How's that for company that reveres the sanctity of the election process?
Most Americans are Pro-Union
Wal-Mart and the Chambe of Commerce may oppose unions; bailed-out banks are conspiring to defeat it. But the American public is broadly pro-union.
Gallup, December, 2008
So, yet again, WTH advocates things seemingly designed to repell Independents. You know, sooner or later they are just going to give up and register as Democrats, when it becomes clear that there will never again be a Repulican agenda that they might be able to support.
Just What America Needs
More unions in more corporations. More workers without a stake in their companies. Companies that have to complete globally. It does't add up.
The worst performing auto companies operating in the US are those with the highest percentage of union workers -- unions that refuse to be competitive and suck their hosts dry.
Go ahead and pass card check, unionize Honda and Toyota plants on Ohio and Indiana -- and watch them move those plants to Mexico.
Textiles, manufacturing, gone, chased off by the high cost of union labor, making them uncompetitive. The unionized industries still standing are those you can't move -- mining, trucking, construction, trades, government, airlines, teachers, etc. You want to support their desire to get their hooks into white collar service jobs in the private sector?
This issue isn't a referendum on unions...
...as I have said, the right to organize and to collectively bargain has long been supported by the Republican party. What we really need to do is find some way both corporate leadership and Labor can respect each other's rights and obligations for the mutual benefit of all concerned.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Why do I need a subject?
It's not the 'unions', it's this specific dumb law that even George McGovern opposes. I'll place his liberal credentials over your trolling anyday.
We need to BAN UNIONS.
Unions are just tools of the communists. During the Russian Revolution, Unions were responsible for running the country and oppressing the people. Unions in America are just the tool of organized crime and only hurt the workers. Workers are best off doing what their employer says because the free market is always right. This country was founded on capitalism and unions serve to undermine that basic right which the founding fathers saw as so fundamental to American freedom and prosperity.
Yes, yes, thank you, lord3drx
As I said above...
...the issue isn't about unions. The right to organize and to collectively bargain has long been supported by the Republican party. What we really need to do is find some way both corporate America and Labor can respect each other's rights and obligations for the mutual benefit of all concerned. The sooner corporate America recognizes the right of its workforce to organize collectively, the sooner the workforce can concentrate on partnering with corporate America to compete in the world marketplace as a team.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Yes, It Is Amazing!
It's amazing that such a great labor bill is not getting the support it deserves. From that former union guy in Arkansas, George McGovern, Warren Buffett, and oh yeah...current Democratic congressmen. People are either jumping off the ship or publicly stating that the bill will change, “It doesn’t have the 60 votes,” said Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), a cosponsor of the bill. “There will be a compromise.” http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/11/politics/politico/main4860630.shtml
Let's wait and see whether or not ol' Harry can get 60 votes in the Senate before we start thinking this bill is real.
By the way, Americans may mark Pro-Union on a survey sheet, but in the workplace they are choosing to go to non-Union jobs. Only 12.4% of Americans choose Union jobs.
Twisty
Of course you don't supply a reference for this, so I'll have to assume that you've twisted it from the fact that 12.4% of American jobs are unionized. But of course, what this debate is all about is employer's ability under the current laws to preclude that choice.
PS: George McGovern? That's what you got?
Look for the Union Label
Can we get a list of famous Republican Union Members? I'll start the list off with Ronald Reagan former president of the Screen Actors Guild. Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, members of the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists.
Jimmy Hoffa n/t
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Here we go again!
EFCA will NOT do away with secret ballots. Workers can still choose to have secret ballot elections if that is the way they want to go!
I understand the bosses and their GOP hired help have focus-grouped all sorts of strategies and settled on attacking EFCA as "..ELIMINATING SECRET BALLOTS!!" as the way to go.
It doesn't matter at all that it is a lie. The Democrats who have gotten cold feet on this act, like Blanche Lincoln, have been given marching orders by powerful special interests in their home states. I do hope Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi make them pay the price for opposing both the will of the people and the will of their Party.
When they start rolling out the Neil Catletts, you know they are scrambling.
It eliminates the requirement
It eliminates the requirement for secret ballots.
Once Again
....No, it does not.
See Farrar's post in last week's thread started by Anuzis.
"... You left out the very first sentence of HR800 SEC. 2(a)(6) "Notwithstanding any other provision of this section"...What it is telling you is that when the company learns its workers are signing union pledge cards, it can still call for a secret ballot of its workers to decide the issue, as per another provision of this section, before the union reaches 50% +1 signed pledge cards.
Now because of the new EFCA guidelines, the company will be put on notice that the union will be recognized when it gets to -- the bill says 50% + 1 -- but the practical effect is that no union is going to the NLRB with just 50% + 1 signed pledged cards. Employees sign union pledge cards for many, many reasons. I would say any union that goes to the NLRB to demand recognition will have at least 75% to 80% of the workforce signed up. So the practical effect of this EFCA legislation is that it will give the company more reason to call first for a secret ballot of its workforce rather than waiting and engaging in firing, intimidating or coercing its own employees during the card signing process..."
The secret ballot is always an option. EFCA will add ANOTHER option workers can use to unionize.
I was with your perspective until the end
You wrote:
"There's still much work ahead to defeat this un-American and anti-democratic law."
Summary of EFCA:
Under the proposed Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), if the NLRB verifies that over 50% of the employees signed authorization cards, the secret ballot election is bypassed and a union is automatically formed. Introduced in the U.S. Congress in 2005 and reintroduced in 2007 and 2009, the EFCA provides that the NLRB would recognize the union's role as the official bargaining representative if a majority of employees have authorized that representation via majority sign-up (card check), without requiring a secret ballot election.[1][2] Under The EFCA, if over 30% and less than 50% of employees sign a petition or authorization cards, the NLRB would still order a secret ballot election for union representation. In other words, the current threshold to have a secret ballot election is signatures from 30% of employees. The EFCA would keep that threshold, but make a new threshold of signatures from 50% + 1 of employees to bypass the secret ballot election and automatically be unionized. Therefore a petition signature would have the same weight as a "yes" vote in a secret ballot election.
How does "un-american" or "anti-democratic" apply here? You might gain more traction with something a little more explanatory of your reasoning then resorting to these empty slogans. At least with me. At present you are sounding a bit knee-jerk and flag-waving. I suspect that you are being disengenuous in opposing EFCA. I am thinking you oppose organized labor and will use any ruse you can find to keep weakening it.
I suggest
I suggest you go read about the issue more widely before you make pronouncements. As each day passes more people are against this un-American bill. Hundreds of newspapers are against it, Geo. McGovern, every business, anyone interested in democracy... you have to ask yourself one thing: with so many varied interests against this bill (you can HARDLY say that business and newspapers are in bed together, usually they are mortal enemies) WHY are the unions for it? Answer, because it gives them unfair advantage and eliminates opposition.
Business and Newspapers: Varied Interests?
No. Almost all major newspapers are pro-business.
WTH, do you know the Wall Street Journal, whose editorial pages are almost 100% pro-business and pro-right wing and anti-union, is second-most in circulation in the entire United States?
Guess not.
What planet are you on? You
What planet are you on? You cite ONE paper and then expand that ONE paper as representative of ALL papers? Moron.
What planet?
The Daily Planet, you douchebag.
It's obvious you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
Have you even bothered to read the bitter, ongoing fights between Moderates and Liberals and the so-called "ombudsmen" at the Washington Post and the New York Times? Both these papers have come under severe criticism from their readers because of the decided pro-business, pro-right tilt of their Editorial and Opinion pages. Fred Hiatt has become a curse word to most Liberals. The New York Times published everything Judith Miller wrote with regard to Iraq, at a time in our history when honest, careful reporting might have swayed public opinion and prevented that costly catastrophe.
The NYT hired Bill Kristol, of all people, to write for them. And when he crashed and burned and caused the NYT to have to print retractions for his stupidities several times, he left. And now they've hired Ross Douthat, another right winger. The Post has Krauthammer, Will, Noonan, dozens of other dead right-wing tools on their payroll. And what we call "Villagers", writers who have had their noses in Washington's ass for so long they enjoy the aroma, people like Broder, Ignatius, Marcus, Cohen, and many others.
Rupert Murdoch and NEWS Corp, Conservative right-wing mainstays, control both the WSJ AND the NY Post, probably the most influential right-wing papers in the country, which are at #2 and #11 in national circulation.
And you're going to try and make the claim that USA Today and the LA Times and the Chicago Trbune are anti-business??
You're a joke. And an uninformed, ignorant one at that.
Electric bill
Many of us respect the labor unions. We all know that laborers have equal right so I think there is no harm in making some points or opinion about this secret ballot. All we need to so is more reviews about this EFCA. Remember that nowadays we need to cooperate more in order to survive in times of recession. As summer is here (unless you live in the Southern Hemisphere and North Poles) and that means that the electric bill is going up. Air conditioning gets expensive, as is heating, as summer and winter are the seasons that send the electric bill up with abandon. A lot of people get sent running for a payday loan to cover the utilities bill. One of the things you can do to save money is to save electricity. Appliances you can afford to not run all the time should be turned off or unplugged. Turn the light off when you leave any room. Use Energy Star rated appliances if possible. If you follow smart energy practices, then you probably won't need installment loans for the electric bill. The things to remember on how to avoid big loans are to save more and spend your cash wisely, try to live a simple life and enjoy things that are affordable and useful every now and then.
strongly opposed
I am strongly opposed to the card check bill.I do not believe the “tail should wag the dog”.These unions have forced the price of goods up by forcing labor costs up thus slowing spending by consumers.
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How on earth Catlett doesn’t argue with union leaders who say the current labor rules make it too tough and are tilted in the favor of business. But he says card check is the wrong way to create a more level playing field. And he also says unions use the same coercion and intimidation used by business owners.
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