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What Obama's tire treatment teaches us about his administration
At 9:18 Friday night, I got an alert from the Washington Post. Barack Obama had slapped tariffs on imports of Chinese tires. Barack Obama's handling of this issue shows several things. First, it shows a real contempt for China, trade policy, and his international relationships more broadly. As one of my liberal friends likes to point out, this action demonstrates how the Democrats really cannot be taken seriously as the internationalist party. And it shows the implicit contradictions in much of Obama's economic policy.
Let's start with the time of its announcement: 9:18pm. Really? Saturday morning in China? This tells us who the audience for this policy was: the United States. It tells us that Obama is willing to subordinate trade policy -- just before the G-20 meeting no less -- to domestic politics that he is embarassed about. Why else release this late on a Friday night? (note that by statute, he didn't have to release a response to International Trade Commission recommendations until the 17th. He picked this timing)
By Saturday afternoon, China issues scathing remarks. By Sunday, they announce counter-tariffs against US chickens and auto-parts. We have a full scale trade war. And Asian and European markets open the week down. Thanks Barack...
So Barack Obama started a trade war for entirely domestic reasons, jeopardizing the recovery, and is afraid of the headlines here, why he doesn't care about international opinion. How does that sound?
Now, why chickens and auto parts? I don't immediately understand the chickens, although I suspect it is a pretty good business for us, but I understand auto parts.
US auto parts are made by the United Autoworkers, the same union that Obama bailed out when he bailed out GM and Chrysler, two companies that had becoming wards of their union pension funds. In addition to hurting the unions, this could hurt the auto manufacturers themselves, which Obama owns and which opposed the tire tariffs because it will raise their costs. First he screwed the car companies for the UAW, now USW. Perhaps this is a lesson for when he takes over the health care sector.
So where was the logic in this? He helps his allies, with one hand, but hurts them with the other. He hurts the economy. He hurts the government run companies. And he opens a trade war just in time for the G-20 to create real structural damage to the US economy.
Furthermore, this is how he is celebrating the anniversary of the death of Lehman Brothers. By sticking the knife in the economy.
That's change I can believe in.
- Soren Dayton's blog
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A fellow has to take one of two views...
Either Barack Obama is the most blatantly ignorant President we've ever had on the subject of economics, and has a full house of yes-men who will not tell him this is stupid, or he is doing this purposefully. Either way, it paints a picture of detachment from reality so thorough that one can scarcely imagine the infantile minds that had been responsible.
I firmly believe they did this purposefully, despite economic advice to the contrary, and despite any repercussions that might accrue to this set of actions. I think Obama and his crew are wrecking our economy with abandon, in order to later justify taking it over in a piece-meal fashion. I'm also certain there is some political pay-off behind this. Somewhere, some key senator's vote for Healthcare depends on protectionism for a tire plant in his state, or some such.
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And the really fiendishly clever part of this diabolical plan
And the really fiendishly clever part of this diabolical plan is that he arranged for the GDP to decline by 2.7% and 5.4% in the two quarters PRIOR to taking office.
One must conclude that George W. Bush and his economic advisers were in on the plot.
And then he seriously got down to work, making GDP decline 6.4% in the first quarter of this year even though he was only in charge for two months of it. Damn, that is impressively efficient evil.
However, he is slipping up - GDP only declined 1% in Q2 09. I guess he has already destroyed all the easy targets, and now has to get to work on the more stubborn pockets of resistance.
Unsurprisingly, that commie pinko rag The Wall Street Journal is covering his ass:
I think I'll cancel my subscription and rely on Glen Beck for all my financial news from now on. Is that what you do?
Impressively efficient evil!
Too funny. I was thinking the same thing.
It's obviously intentional
Those that don't see it (like Rick Moran) are living in a state of denial. They can't imagine it, because they still think "It can't happen here". You don't need to buy conspiracy theories to see the evidence for what it is. There is enough in plain view, in the Obama administration's own words and actions.
Whatever Obama's inexperience may be - his mentors and advisors are all radical anti-american activists cut from the same cloth. How do people continue to dismiss Ayers, Wright, Alinsky, the Emmanuels, Axelrod, Holder, Sebelius, Napolitano, Sunstein, Lloyd, Van Jones and all the other czars, Sotomayor, etc...
They are all admirers of Castro and Chavez and they all learned from Marx and his disciples.
Why don't you give us a summary?
Please give us a summary - how about your top ten examples?
Bush: steel: 2002. Are we
Bush: steel: 2002. Are we angry just because its Obama? Lets keep some perspective, here. Yes its stupid. But its stupid all the time, with every President. Please, lets not be too surprised when a Democrat is trying to maintain his base. Last I checked, Republicans pander to their voters, too. Its how Republican congressmen in Nebraska and Iowa can propose and vote for agricultural and ethanol subsidies.
As a rule of thumb, maybe we should be no more angry than
the Chinese themselves. From that commie pinko rag The Wall Street Journal:
Apparently, our national "chicken parts" industry is under threat as a retaliation.
Boycotting China
This weekend I was in an REI store (not by choice) and while waiting for an out of town relative to select a pair of hiking boots, I happened to notice that all of the products on offer were made in China. ALL of them. At last, I found a flashlight made in the good ol' USA, albeit with a caveat attached: "Some" of the parts "might" be imported.
I'd like to see much larger country of origin labeling mandated. I, for one, am going to look a lot closer at the labels of the few things I am buying these days. No more goods from China!
I am glad the President slapped a tariff on tires from China. And, if there are American companies making the tires in China, as I heard on radio yesterday, then they should suffer for not producing the tires here.
Strategic Protectionism
I don't want to see a full blown trade war where all imports and exports to and from China are stopped. But I would like to see some balance. There's a huge trade imbalance right now and we're on the short end. Every year we import more and more goods from China while our exports don't keep up. I'm okay with a little strategic protectionism. China's got a lot more to lose than we do so they should easily give into our demands right now.
Good for Obama. It's time someone stood up for our interests.
Maybe, just maybe....
...The President is applying a little pressure to our chinese creditors, in pursuit of a larger economic goal? Like, I dunno, getting them to open up their domestic markets a bit? I know, it sounds wacky, but theres a chance that the "Bend over and take it so we can keep buying three dollar t-shirts at WalMart" strategy (the "internationalist " position, pardon the pun) isn't in our long-term interests. When I say "our", I of course mean actual human Americans with economic concerns beyond capital-gains tax rates.
As for the "...real contempt for China...", umm, yeah; I totally have that.
We have lost a lot of jobs
We have lost a lot of jobs throughout the years and it is understandable that we are at a point of protectionism and bailing everyone out. We have had years of no investment in the country. We know we have to compete with third world labor and it is impossible to compete with 1 dollar an hour wages and no benefits. We had a president for 8 years saying "free trade is good" as we lost the jobs.
It always comes down to investing in your country, in your people, and in the future. We should have invested in our country years ago to create new jobs as the old jobs leave the country. So now we are reduced to protectionism. Under the circumstances, Obama has little choice.
And things will get worse.
A Decade With No Income Gains - Economix Blog - NYTimes.com
As Cheaper Chinese Tires Roll In, Obama Faces an Early Trade Test - washingtonpost.com
China showcases commercial jet at Asia air show - Yahoo! Finance
Saying that free trade is good
Is a LOT different from implementing actual free trade policies. The Bush administration spent $20 Billion inflation adjusted tax dollars MORE on regulation than Clinton's administration spent, but spending more has magically become "deregulation" in this age of media NewSpeak.
What gets me about China is these small kerfluffles...
As a major league potential
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13426
derivatives default crisis is largely ignored in the "mainstream" media.
Mr. Dayton--LOL
You make me laugh Mr. Dayton!!! Your understanding of economics and finance is truly stunning! (Please remind us that you are a mortgage guy—wow)
First, let’s review; this whole financial mess can be boiled down to the simple fact that many years of excessive leverage and speculation in housing, financial, and banking created phony wealth in the economy (not to mention the world) and really caused the financial meltdown. Very similar to the lead up of the 1929 crash and depression, just using different financial instruments. From the perversion of the Black–Scholes financial modeling equations to the use of derivatives for everything under the sun to the leveraging up of bank balance sheets and the use of 100s of billions of dollars of off balance sheet holdings for banks, nothing was off limits when it came to gaming the system. And the most egregious of these excesses were done under the Bush Administrations preview and the SEC (Mr. Cox should be in jail for his dereliction of duty).
Now fast forward to March of 2009, the Stock market bottomed and has had one of the best six month periods in history up about 40% from the bottom. The economic cycle typically starts with a stock market recovery prior to the economic recovery and usually last in the cycle is employment recovery. This could be a very long and slow recovery due to the fact that so much deleveraging is taking place. So those of you who are crying about the unemployment rate do not understand the normal economic cycle process (Mr. Dayton.)
Finally, few people really know how close we came last fall to a complete financial failure when commercial paper and short term financing froze up. Had we not flooded the system with money and given huge lines of credit to banks and financial institutions we were days away from having a financial run on our banking system. And instead of having a 10% unemployment rate like we have now we would have a 40% or 50% unemployment and most likely civil unrest. And a lot of those losers that are participating in the “Tea Bagging movement” would be in soup lines and unemployment lines.
A litany of canards, but you forget a couple...
like the one about Republicans wanted policies in place --just to help their BigPharm "buddies"-- which would have required seniors to choose between eating dog food or taking their meds...
only I guess you can't use that one now because BigPharm is one of our Thug President's biggest supporters and allies in the War Against Medicine.
Kind of like the pre-Nov 08 canard about "Ending this Endless War", only to find out that our Thug President has extended the war, prolonged the pull out in Iraq, put more forces with fewer assets in harm's way in Afghanistan, proposed massive cuts to our defense and natl security spending AND crippled our intelligence gains, painfully made since 9-11, by hamstringing the CIA.
Really, the-gun-stops, you ought to actually get a gun, load it and start shooting down some of those whooper canards (Fr. duck) of yours.
It'd be far better than making stupidly ridiculous claims like unemployment would 40-50% if the Great Obama hadn't burdened America with a monsterously inefficent Stimulus Spending Bill, the failed Cash4ClunkedCars program and God only knows what next... oh, I know, another $1 trillion deficit adding govt run health care system.
I wonder if the people who bought the snake oil salesmanship of Obama ever thought the next phrase they'd have to learn to spell would be "quadrillion dollar Democrat deficits".
http://www.quadrillion.com/number.shtm
Well...
Actually, BigPharm still gives more to Republicans (52%-48%), which they've done for years (sometimes as much as 80% for Repubs), but they'll try to bribe whoever is in charge, so, as the article suggests, one can expect that dynamic to shift. Only if Obama suddenly turns liberal and fails to take the bait by challenging their prerogatives (and it looks like he's taken it hook, line, and sinker) will it shift back to the Repubs before the next election cycle.
http://lefthooktheblog.blogspot.com/
The only "well" is the one Obama is tapping into...
Your reference to a FierceMarkets "article" is hardly compelling or convincing, ClassicDemocrat2. What next, references to Midnight Inquirer on what lip gloss Michele and Barack Obama wear when playing dress-up in the metrosexual lounge in the WH?
BigPharma is giving big to Obama and the Democrats... CommonCause has it at a projected 83-18% split between Dems and GOPs in the current round of reporting... which is tough to document for them since nearly 35% of the DemPACs haven't reported yet and are in violation of FEC rules... just like the Obama Inaugural Committee.
An honest classic liberal, former Labor Secy and mighty midget RobbieStepStoolReich cautioned Obama and House Dems to make sure that before slipping into the bed sheets with BigPharma, they actually get something other than health care reform screwed.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/9/764301/-Robert-Reich:-Obamas-Dubya-like-Deal-with-Big-Pharma-Undermines-Democracy
Just looking at the final 2008 campaign report for the two big guys --Obama and McCain-- the break was:
per the FEC.
Of course, that's nothing new. Democrats were wondering why BigPharma had been sucking up to Obama and Clinton throughout the primary... to the distinct disadvantage of McCain...
Obama First In Big Pharma Contributions
Much has been made by Sen. Barack Obama's supporters of the fact that he stands for integrity, "new politics," "reform" and cannot be bought by any special interest. That may be so, but the new politics are sure beginning to look a bit like the old politics.
CNBC.com reports that Obama is numero uno among presidential candidates, current and former, in contributions received from pharmaceutical companies and health care companies at $636,000 through the end of April. Sen. Hillary Clinton is second at $568,000. Sen. John McCain has taken in $173,000.
If he's elected President, you have to wonder what health care reform would look like under Obama. You also have to wonder why an alleged reformer is taking in so much money from Big Pharma.
Posted by Philip Dawdy at May 19, 2008 10:55 AM
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Of course, very liberal and BigObama supporter Ed Schultz was so alarmed at how deeply BigPharma had gotten in bed with our metrosexual Prez that he reported a NYTimes story this way:
I'm guessing that you weren't trying to tell the truth, Classic Liberal 2, you were just doing a Mead50 move --spinning the truth until it gets so twisted it chokes everything nearby?
Yeah, yeah. That's the ticket.
You've gotten me wrong
No, the numbers I cited were the consequence of a quick search, rather than any sort of intense research. I ranted against the Obama sucking up to the health care industry (not just the pharmaceutical industry) last year, when it was at its absolute worst (in the primaries), and I've ranted against the Obama essentially allowing industry--and this extends beyond just health care--to continue to run all the things industry, itself, has fouled up. Industry always tries to bribe whoever is in charge.
I don't try to mislead, and though I'm only human and do make mistakes from time to time, I do make a game effort at accuracy, and take seriously accusations of inaccuracy. Today, seeing your post, I punched a few buttons to see what's what.
That appears to be news to Common Cause. I'm assuming you got those numbers from somewhere, but I can't find Common Cause (or anyone else) offering them, so a citation would be just peachy. Certainly nothing in the data I've found would support such a lopsided split.
The presidential candidate numbers you cite "per the FEC" come to us from opensecrets.org, one of the most useful resources on government that exists. They deal only with the two major political candidates, though, and deal with the combined contributions of pharmaceutical and health product manufacturers, the latter of which, I assume, distorts the data. The undiluted, complete pharma-only numbers from the campaign can be found on the same site. These show a 51%-49% split in favor of the Republicans last year, which is only a 1% difference from what I posted before.
That chart is also useful in that it shows the long-term trends going back to 1990. During the whole of this time, Republicans have enjoyed the advantage in these contributions, and it has usually been a massive advantage--more than 69% in most years. Only this year has it turned, and even now, it's just a 53%-47% split in favor of the Democrats.
Common Cause did deal with health care industry contributions to congress in one of its "governing while under the influence" reports--it found that, as usual, a massive chunk of the total industry donations went to members who sit on the health-care-related committees. Industry tries to bribe whoever is in charge. The top recipient, though, is the right-wing chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, whose vile "Baucus plan"--actually, a plan written by the former Vice President of Wellpoint--is being used to try to defeat the "public option."
Not only is Classic Liberal spinning like Mead50 in a trance
but his main point --that the pharmaceutical industry is deep, deep in bed with Obama and they've been screwing under the sheets since at least the Democrat Party primaries-- is one that he'll run from even if he is in a whirling dervish pitched spinning trance.
You nailed him; just like with Mead 50.
Good job, Jack.
Good President
Well the President has given a time to prove himself. And he is still in the process let's give him a chance.
Give and Take
The political games that are played between countries are the very things that start wars. Obama isn't doing anything that past presidents haven't done. You can bet that there are stratagies on both sides of the ocean that are being played out before this summit. Do not think for one minute that all of this isn't orchestated for these talks that will be taking place. These guys may look like they are making random decisions but that is just not the case!
The History Man
http://www.footnote.com/page/94351647_us_historical_documents/
I didn't believe him from the start
I love how Obama said that he was in favor of free trade- which is something all candidates say, but none have thus far practiced. In essence, they have only practiced trade favoritism. Reagan through to Bush (Jr.) gave TITANIC favors to their buddies (more like bosses) in the finance industry, and Obama right now is trying to favor the auto industry (unions), which as we all are well aware, are located mostly in the Midwest.
As a tangential aside which is entirely (en-TIRE-ly...ha! Unintentional, but I'll run with it anyway, even if it isn't a WHEEL good pun.) unrelated, and completely a coincidence. We went into Vietnam essentially at the behest of the French, the reason why was because we were saving their plantation system, which was mostly in rubber plantations. One of the largest plantations there belonged to a family named Michelin - yes, THAT Michelin. So, in essence, our government started one of the costliest and stupidest wars in the history of mankind to keep rubber from that part of the world flowing, and now our government is trying to keep it away.
This is obviously a move away from free trade, and towards protectionism and most DEFINITELY to placate the United Auto Workers. I do see a point to unions - labor, after all, is a commodity and they have a right to form a concern in order to set a fair price for the product or service they render, and let us be entirely honest that, left to their own devices at times, corporations CAN be abusive. That said, the UAW has done as much harm as good, but at least have been cooperative with the companies that employs their workers so that the company can stay afloat, but that is something any and all unions should do, if they continue to exist.
Obama isn't now, and never really was committed to free trade. Part of what makes for free trade is a lack of government intrusion that does anyhthing other than enforce contracts or other legal violations. In other words, the definition of free trade is that no party is given advantage by legal status over any other party - that's the defining characteristic of freedom. And just because he's giving unions favors doesn't mean that this clown is working for the same people as Bush Jr. - he's surrounded by a vicious cabal of the same Wall Street dunce types that did nobody any good with the last guy.
"Meet the New Boss, Same As The Old Boss."
Who knows what free trade is
Who knows what free trade is anymore. What we do know is that for some 30 years Japan has taken most of our steel, textiles, electronics, and autos.
And now we see Mexico, China, and India, and other countries take our jobs. It is all for cheap labor. Let's face it. If I had a factory, I would go to a country that pays 1 dollar an hour and no benefits. China and India both have 1 billion people. There is not enough jobs to go around. This all puts pressure on corporations to cut the pay, the people, and the benefits. While there is a good side of competition, there is also a downside.
In the case of China and India alone, they will take everything else the Japanese did not take.
We cannot keep going on like this if we are to keep the middle class. While protectionism is a no no, we can have politicians in Washington make a point that we need to invest in our country, in our people, and in the future. Already, we have cities and states going broke, we have social programs to maintain, and everyone is running up deficits and debt. While we need to cut back on spending, we also need to raise revenue. And you cannot raise revenue with jobs going overseas. We cannot keep going down this road of bailouts of banks and corporations, of cities and states, extension of unemployment benefits, cash for clunkers, and putting casinos in each state as if this will solve our problems.