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Submitted by Patrick Ruffini on Fri, 08/22/2008 - 06:38
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There are plenty of worse alternatives
like Graham or Lieberman. Let's not knock this one for fear it blows back at us.
My gut leans more toward
My gut leans more toward Pawlenty, but the consensus seems to be building around Romney. On Intrade he's at about 48, with Pawlenty in second place at 25.
Not Romney
Some time ago there was an article on this blog about how Romney wouldnt take the VP spot because he would like to run for the top spot again in 2012. I agreed with that article then and do now.
The key reason i think Romney will not be the VP nominee is the fact that for better or worse I dont see how John McCain can win this election. There are tooooooo many things going against the Republican brand. And, we saw how being the VP nominee is a losing effort doesnt lead to success the next time around with John Edwards. If Romney were on a losing ticket he would have that hanging over his head four years from now when he makes another run at it.
So my pick....Pawlenty
-I should also add that i would love to see McCain win; but, as i think we all know the odds are not in his favor.
Romney leak is to add some news to distract from
the the "I don't know how many houses I own" gaffe. I still think Pawlenty will be the real choice, He is seen as strong conservative (both fiscal and social) and managed relection in a year when minnesotans were cleaning house.
Not Romney
I agree Romney is a smokescreen....I still like Cantor he's fallen off the radar which is a sign...of what who knows
Cantor would be I think the best choice
given our options. While Romney wouldn't be as bad a choice as Lieberman or Ridge. Others here believe that McCain can't win although I remain unconvinced that Obama can win. Wer need a young articluate conservative who is a leader that can step into the office of POTUS if something happens to McCain. Cantor is that choice.
I've said for awhile now that
I've said for awhile now that I think Mitt is the best strategic choice for McCain, and I still believe that's true.
But it's hard for me to believe the campaign would allow this much to "leak" about Romney if he's really the choice. I can't help but wonder if this just a distraction to generate press while Obama's announcing his own VP this weekend, and to deflect attention from McCain's true VP.
I don't buy it either. Halperin bit on a leak...
The McCain people leaked some fish food to Halperin and he went with the story.
This is more head fake stuff. All will depend on what Jesus Hussein Christ does over the next 24 Hours with his pick and the "General Line" of his Campaign ("A Team America Can Believe In" or some such garbage). I'm still betting on Hillary, because I think Obama likes surprises and it makes sense for him politically to swallow his pride and ego.
But it's a Faustian Bargain, and he knows it, so that leads him to Biden. A Biden pick would open the door to McCain picking a long ball pick that would be a game changer, like Rice.
I'm still betting Hillary, however.
For McCain, I'm betting on him to pick either Eric Cantor or Pawlenty. I'd like him to pick Rice, but that won't happen if the Risen Barack picks Hillary, as McCain wouldn't want to be seen to be pandering.
McCain's problem is that in the case of Cantor, Pawlenty, and yes, Sarah Palin, the voters don't know who his running mates are, and he doesn't have time to introduce them to the country as potential Presidents. That's why I'm leaning hard to someone like Rice as the pick, as outside-the-box as that might seem.
Romney for McCain
Romney brings Michigan AND Nevada into play. And if Michigan is in play, the race will be much more difficult for Obama. He's already pulling back in Florida and is down a point in Ohio. What states will he have to concentrate on? Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.
I think we're really starting to see the cracks in a once invincible campaign.
This is the Romney rationale...
...the calculus is how much does Romney hurt the "true" conservatives and evangelical GOTV volunteers.
I hope it is not Romney...Jindal!
Let's not make the "perfect" be the enemy of the good
The truth of the matter is that the Evangelicals hate Obama more than they could conceivablely hate Mitt Romney, on paper, Romney is inline with 90% of their agenda. He hasn't had a perfect policy record in his entire career? No, neither did Ron Regs.
Jindal is not taking the job, he has already said, he doesn't want the job. He needs to establish himself as a Governor if he ever wants to run for President.
Wishing vs. Reality
As much as I would like to see Romney as VP, I suspect he will not be the pick. While he is seen as conservative, there is still controversy surrounding him from some quarters. McCain's lead at this point is not strong and he needs to court his base to win. Controversy with some conservatives (translate - Huckabee supporters) will not help this goal. Pawlenty or someone similar seems the safe bet.
McCain-Romney
I don't buy it either. I suspect McCain has wanted to pick Pawlenty for some time now. With his trial balloon talk about Lieberman or Ridge, the base, as evidenced by Richard Viguerie came out and said Pawlenty ot Romney would be acceptable to Conservatives. That may or may not have been his intention, but that speculation served to make choices that the base felt so-so about to become acceptable. I think Pawlenty gets the nod over Mitt because 1) He was an early McCain supporter, while Mitt challenged him and 2) Huckelberry has been raising such a ruckus trying to prevent Romney's selection. While I think that's pretty childish, a safe pick acceptable to the base seems more in line with what McCain would be looking for. At the same time, I feel Romney's skills are a better match for running the RNC and making Republicans a legitimate political force in more parts of the country. Mitt's a turnaround expert, and the RNC is definitely a business in need of a turnaround.
Having said that, I still think Romney would be a good choice. I also think Rob Portman or John Engler would be solid picks because of their economic gravitas and potential to win votes in the industrial midwest. But at the end of the day, I think it will be Pawlenty.
Romney in the RNC?
Interesting and good idea. Someone with Romney's business skills would also be more than needed in the White House as well btw.
Engler can't do this
His wife is on the Freddie Mac board. Oops.
As for Eric Cantor, I recall the last time a sitting House member ran for VP was
William Miller on Barry Goldwater's ticket.Geraldine Ferraro on the Mondale ticket (Even worse---won only one state!)(I think better after a few slices!)The last time a sitting Senator won the white House was
John F. Kennedy so I really don't see your point. The only reason there is going to be another President who happens to be a senator is becauseboth parties have been stupid enough to nominate sittnig Sentors as their respective nominees.
I mean less face it, the reason Goldwater lost in 1964 was that he was true conservative running in 1964 when the country was willing to try socialism. Mondale lost in 1984 because he was running aginst Reagan and unlike most Democrats with the exception of the current nominee, was honest about wanting to raise taxes (then again Obama has backtracked on that).
In both those cases it was the nominee who lost and neither running mate helped the ticket in any meaningful way. Hell, William Miller was a RINO who Goldwater put on the ticket to appeal to the then dominant Rockefellar-wing of the party. After that the majority of RINOS still suppoted LBJ to defeat that evil conservative.
Nominating Cantor would not be in any way similar to either of those cases. Nor if McCain were to lose (God forbid) it would definitely not be because he chose Cantor.
Romney would be a fine choice
especially considering the goose-eggs out three (female ex-CEOs, Liberman, Ridge, Crist). None of those other choices could ever match Romney's 4 million primary votes cast for presiden, and none have gone to bat as Romney has on multiple conservative issues.
Mitt had great Catholic support, did well in west and in MI. Romney had good mainstream conservative support, and the anti-mormon vote might not be an issue when the guy on the other side went to a black liberation theology church that spouted anti-american bile.
The businessman Romney compliments the warrior McCain quite well. And he has executive political experience, which other picks (like Cantor) do not. There are some real Mitt-hating detractors out there in some conservative circles, but most of the conservative establishment was behind Romney in January as the 'last best hope' for conservatives vs McCain. And Romney hit a home run in CPAC. In fact, in thinking about it, the only other choices in the same league would be Owens (CO), Pawlenty (MN), and Sanford (SC).
Add to that business acumen, articulate and agile in debates, And he makes a great co-pilot in the White House due to his private and public executive experience.
Romney's downside is simple: He's not a proven conservative leader. He moved right in the nomination race, but people wanted more than promises. That's why he didnt win the nomination. We were looking for Reagan and he wasnt quite it (neither were any of the others of course, so its no hit on him per se). Well, that's kind of where GHW Bush was in 1980; runner-up, establishment Republican, good man, but he lost to Reagan. And the Reagan/Bush ticket fit pretty well.
As others have said ... McCain could do worse. Most of his other picks are less conservative than Romney.
One pick that IMHO would be better would be Sarah Palin. If the Hillary news is right, then Obama will go white-guy route, and we've got a potential pairing that would emphasize appealling to women and put a conservative with a great prolife and pro-domestic energy perspective on the ticket.
Whether it WILL happen, I don't know. I do know that if McCain puts a pro-choicer or a Democrat, he's throwing the election away.
Mitt is
certainly better than Lieberman, Ridge, or Huckabee. If he was at the top of the ballot, we wouldn't have been talking about a contest this year, such was his unlikability. I really can't see blue-collar people rallying behind Romney. However, as VP, he wouldn't cause people to change their vote. I like Pawlenty better as VP choice, but Mitt certainly wouldn't be the worst pick.