I Don't Vote for Tax Hikers

[Promoted - Jon Henke]

Fiscal conservatives have reason to be alarmed leading up to November. The current political climate is such that populist Democrats are poised to make significant gains on Capitol Hill, while Republicans are frantically moving to the center in order to stay in office. This likely means an increase in your tax burden, and a perpetually expanding federal budget (which has nearly doubled since 1980).

It goes without saying that those in favor of pro-growth public policy, with low taxes and sensible government spending, will be furious if a merry band of tax hikers is sworn in to Congress and state legislatures nationwide next year. What is less certain is whether these candidates are aware of America’s preference for policymakers keen on allowing citizens to spend their own money, rather than insisting the government spend it for them.

To that end, the National Taxpayers Union has launched its “I Don’t Vote for Tax Hikers” campaign to mobilize the grassroots movement and present a formal rejection of the tax-and-spend policies that threaten to further inundate government at all levels. The logic behind it is quite simple: Politicians respond to the demands of voters. This campaign is an incredibly important way to remind elected officials that there is a coordinated taxpayer lobby – and we vote, too.

Unlike the countless lobbyists coming into policymakers’ offices and pitching them new and innovative ways to waste tax dollars, the No Tax Hikers coalition proposes that government stop spending our money for us. The initiative, launched yesterday morning already has over 1,000 participants. It promises to make a significant impact on those politicians straying from fiscal responsibility heading into November.

Visit the Web site at www.NoTaxHikers.org, sign up, and let your voice be heard. It’s YOUR money. Vote that way. We’ll even send you an “I Don’t Vote for Tax Hikers” bumper sticker on the house. It’s time to let the politicians at the federal, state, and local levels know that we won’t be duped by promises of more handouts funded by our hard-earned dollars. Visit NoTaxHikers.org and make your voice heard loud and clear.

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As a fiscal conservative myself...

...I commend your efforts. But the problem has been, is, and will continue to be, the people's voices aren't  being heard, at least not over the taxing interests. The taxing interests in this country are getting politically stronger every day, while we taxpayers remain unorganized and voiceless.

It's nice to send out yet another "old school" plead to have your voices heard, but isn't it time we taxpayers adopt a "new school" tool, the Internet, and collective ourselves into an actual National Online Party?

ex animo

davidfarrar

 

Tell him what he won, Dave!

That's right, Jon!  You've won a free weekend trip (plus travel expenses, applicable state taxes and initial fees) to a BRAND NEW POLITICAL PARTY!  That's right -- you'll get to hear David Farrar explain all over again just how it is that the American political system works, and how you -- YES YOU -- can make a difference!

All you have to do is devote countless hours of your personal time (which could be devoted to an established party with resources) to the very same thing that H. Ross Perot did just twenty years ago!

Listen to what Ross Perot has to say: 

"The best damn ten million dollars I ever spent!  Hell, even my daughter's wedding garnered the attention of the CIA and media scoundrels!"

But wait!  There's more!  In addition to your very own political party, you get a fat sack of self-importance!  Don't take my word for it. . .take David Farrar's!

"By joining the National Online Party, you immediately absolve yourself of all prior political beliefs.  Oppose nationalized healthcare?  Not a problem!  The National Online Party supports the 'Ronald Reagan Nationalized Healthcare Plan'!  Sure, it's the same as all the other nationalized healthcare plans -- except for one important fact:  It's named after Ronald Reagan!"

Here's a great idea -- let's call the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac bailout something different.  How about, "The Ronald Reagan Chrysler Bailout, Only for Houses Instead of Cars"?  Let's ask the leader of the National Online Party:

"Well, really, it's not much different from my healthcare plan, except for fewer people die." -- David Farrar

What are you waiting for?  Call now!  (Some restrictions apply.  Subject to all state and local taxes and fees.)

 

I'm afraid the issue of tax reform...

...simply doesn't garner the sort of enthusiasm from the "average" middle American voter that it once did.  That is unfortunate.  Because if Obama is elected  taxation is going to, once again, jump to the top of the issues "marquee".  But it'll be too late.

I think GOP strategists had best find out quickly what issue(s) will get the voters energized and begin to clearly/concisely address these issues.  But its clear the GOP Hierarchy is way out of touch with the average voter, viewing themselves as above the fray.  Not wanting to come down off of their elitist mountain top.  They lowered themselves enough to latch on to Sarah Palin.  They'll "use" her to try to convince voters that they're "one of us" (if she lets them!).   But in essence they despise us.   And they think we're too stupid to see it.  They'd better get their act together ASAP.

Sometimes it appears that winning is simply not high on the list of priorities for the GOP. 

Darvin Dowdy

Tax Hikes

1.  Under Clinton we saw a vibrant, growing economy despite tax hikes.  23 Million new jobs created, unemployment was down below 4% when he left office, and has never been that low since.

2.  Under Clinton, for the first time in a generation, the debt-service clock that monitors the amount of growth in the debt S-L-O-W-E-D, and o frabjous day, for a brief moment in 2000 actually came to a STOP!  And then started goin BACKWARDS, as a budget surplus became a reality.

3.  It was AL GORE who went over the heads of a Republican majority, and cast the tie-breaking vote that made a balanced-budget amendment a reality.

4.  Obama will raise taxes on Corporations and people making over a quarter mill a year.  I feel really bad for them, how ever will they survive??  Not.

5.  For the most part, the Discretionary part of the Budget; that is to say that part which the Congress can actually appropriate and spend (Unlike NON-DISCRETIONARY, such as debt service and SS payments), has seen impressive growth in one area:  Defense.  50% increase from 2000 under Clinton, as the Pentagon ran wild and war and Homeland Security expenses overwhelmed the Budget.

6.  Expenses for things like Interior, Commerce, Agriculture, etc. have largely stayed the same when adjusted for inflation.

7.  Pork-barrel and other infrastructure expenses were tiny compared to the cost of the occupation of Iraq.

8.."Fiscal Conservatives" is an oxymoron:  If you support a growing, engaged, well-funded, deployed  military, you may be a stupid Conservative, but you are not fiscally responsible. 

9. You should read your Constitution, where the Founding Fathers not only made sure the President  was, and remained a Civilian, but limited war  powers and appropriations both in term and usage wherever possible.

 

SPEAKER GINGRICH DESERVES THE CREDIT

The CONGRESS writes the budget, and the budget the GOP Congress wrote in 1994-1999 was conservative. Clinton had the largest tax increase in US history in 1993, and the GOP decided to undo as much of it as possible, with several tax cuts from 1995 to 1999. To keep lowering the deficit they capped the growth in spending. They had a plan to balance the budget and stuck with it.

WELL DONE SPEAKER NEWT GINGRICH!

8.."Fiscal Conservatives" is an oxymoron:  If you support a growing, engaged, well-funded, deployed  military, you may be a stupid Conservative, but you are not fiscally responsible. 

 

Really! So is it fiscally irresponsible for you to pay for adequate local police and fire fighters and EMS?!?

 

Clinton did not raise taxes for seven years.

Clinton did not raise taxes during the last seven years of his administration  Clinton had a Repulblican Congress during his last six years and could not start a single new entitlement program or expand existing program. In addition, the Clinton Administration benefited for the irrational dot.com boom.

Of course the Republicans did fail in 2001 with tax cuts with matching budget cuts.  No one should take any Repubican seriously unless the propose tax cuts to match or exceed any budget cuts.  The Republicans failed to make any budget cuts from 2001 t0 2006 but voted for new entitlement programs and for massive defense spending.

In the future, conservatives should only talk about budget cuts instead of tax cuts.

it's the Spending Stupid!

You are correct in ascertaining that the Clinton/Gingrich era was the most fiscal/tax conservative era since Reaganomics. the Gingrich GOP Congress was a great restraint on the budget.  Bush was great on taxes in 2003, but the failure to keep spending in check led to a failure to follow up on taxes since then.  That ultimately is the lesson of GWB on budget and taxes. We  run out of taxes to cut when we keep spending like theres no tomorrow.

the future, conservatives should only talk about budget cuts instead of tax cuts.

We really need both. That's why I like to talk about the 15% solution: Have a maximum tax rate of 15% and keep federal spending to a max of 15% of GDP. It can work and if it is tried the economy would boom due to the shackles taken off the economy.

Grover Norquist's "Leave Us Alone" also talks about the need for two-pronged approach. Head on spending reduction is not popular but he has several elements of spending reduction needed to make headway. It is encouraging that McCain is advocating several of them:

- health care reform elements like picking insurance from any of the 50 states

- ending earmarks, reducing pork barrel spending

- government accountability, put all contracts and spending publicly on the web

Another thing to do is dynamic scoring. Static scoring makes tax cuts seems worse than they are.

 

taxes/budget

My knowledge of economics is limited to a couple of college classes and trying to stretch a teacher's salary to the end of the month,  but "tax ands spend" seems  intuitively to be a much smarter policy than "borrow from China and spend."  I'm quite sure it was Reagan that ran up large defictis, followed by a budget surplus in the final Clinton years, back to big deficits under Bush policies.   Hmm, which is the party with a better record of fiscal responsibility? (and a strong economy where growth benefitted people of all  income levels))

Also why all the talk of Obama raising taxes when most of us are part of the 80-90% non-rich who will see tax cuts under Obama proposals.  Why so much empathy for the wealthy, whose lifestyles will not change while make a greater contribution to the common good?

 

Your intuition is wrong

  but "tax ands spend" seems  intuitively to be a much smarter policy than "borrow from China and spend." 

Higher taxes leads to higher spending. Higher tax rates retard economic growth and thus harm the economy. Also the burden of Govt getting reduced via lower tax rates has a benefit in growth such that it is easier to pay for it down the road. If you really think deficit spending is a terrible thing, vote against every single school bond issue. that's what school bond issues are: Deficit spending (ostensibly for capital expenses).

In the end tax and spend vs borrow and spend is a distinction without a difference. The REAL COST OF GOVERNMENT IS THE AMOUNT IT SPENDS. this is the same with your own personal finances btw. It doesnt matter as much if you pay cash or put it on credit card. If you spend too much and pay cash all the time, you arent being 'responsible' you are just upfront in paying for your irresponsibility. OTOH if you are not overspending debt is not a sin but a cash management method.

As simple solution and proposal: Aim to have the Federal Govt spend only 15% of GDP.

Also why all the talk of Obama raising taxes when most of us are part of the 80-90% non-rich who will see tax cuts under Obama proposals.  Why so much empathy for the wealthy, whose lifestyles will not change while make a greater contribution to the common good?

It's not 'wealth' that is taxed, it is investment income and personal income and payroll income. Taxing income is taxing production. I think Fred Thompson had a great reply to this mindset. Taxing business wont effect you - unless you buy from a business, sell to a business, work for a business, or have a business of your own. For me personally as an investor, Obama's tax increases will hurt me. Millions of others will feel the brunt.

Since the top 1% already pay something like 40% of all income taxes, I think the 'tax the rich' drum has been beaten quite enough.

 

Clinton also...

...gutted the military.  Reduced military spending to such dangerous levels which gave a "go" signal to our enemies.  Which they exploited.  That really saved a lot of tax money didn't it?  And thats nuthin' compared to what Obama will do.   Obama will make Bill Clinton look like George Patton. 

We're talking Republican issues here. The dem's have totally discredited themselves and proven themselves as untrustworthy in running our nation.  I've many problems w/the GOP and I have a right to be critical because I vote GOP.   However, the worst Republican is a mega-improvement over the best that the dem's have to offer. 

Mark my words, the democrat party is terminal.  They've destroyed themselves by moving too far to the anti-US left.  I give them maybe 10 years.

I also agree that there is a need for a more nation-centric 2nd party to replace the terminal dem's. DD 

Talk about being behind the times

Nobody votes on tax increases anymore. Our leaders have learned long ago how to raise taxes without having to actually ask taxpayers for their vote.  All government has to do to raise taxes is to devalue the dollar by printing more money than it than it takes in.  In this way, even fiscal conversative Republicans can go around at election time, telling votes he will never raise their taxes. All he has to do to raise taxes is to support the takeover of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac and the money in your pockets will be taxed automatically.

Ain't politics great?

ex animo

davidfarrar

1.  Clinton did not "gut the

1.  Clinton did not "gut the military".  It was Clinton's military which won absurdly easy victories in Afghanistan and then Iraq.  But it was Rumsfeld who allowed Bush's folly of occupation and nation-building to first misuse and then dismantle the fine fighting machine that had been built as a quick-strike overwhelming force.  Please examine your ideology in light of history and reality.

 

2.  We were not attacked on 911 by any Army or nation or government "taking advantage pf our weakness".  We were made victims by 22 Saudis with boxcutters and plastic knives and the willingness to die for what they were led to believe.

 

3.  "Higher taxes retard Economic Growth" .  If you believe that, you have your head up your ass and you believe in Larry Kudlow, the Laffer curve, and supply-side Reaganomics.  All of these are cynical, perverse  fantasies. 

Please explain as an exercise in reality how then Clinton's Economy raised GDP, raised tax revenues, raised new jobs by 23 million, lowered unemployment every month he was in office, created more new businesses and new millionaires and raised the DOW and NASDAQ more than any President or Economic period in our History, while at the same time fighting and beating Newt Gingrich and raising taxes.  See, businesses and millionaires have no problem with taxes.  It's only idiots like Norquist and Conservatives who refuse to pay the freight of success in America.