If You Don't Change, You Won't Change

We complain about the superficial, biased coverage of the MSM. We are justified in doing so. Thus, we must not succumb to the same trite discussion of why McCain is losing and where the GOP went wrong.

The answer, my friends, is not found in one person, wing of the Party, policy approach or tactic.  The reasons the "circular firing squad" now points to – inconsistent message, poor fundraising, inferior integration of new technology, even the President's low approval rating -- are symptoms of the disease, not the cause of it. 

The disease is complacency with the status quo and arrogance.  The same disease that caused Republicans to lose the majority in both houses in 2006.   Americans demand change. Duh.   

David Frum summarizes this well in The Week as reported by Politico:

In The Week, former Bush speechwriter David Frum wrote of McCain's travails in a way that seemed to take defeat for granted and warned the GOP faces a long road back. "That's not a failure of campaign tactics. It's not even a failure of strategy. It's a failure of the Republican Party and conservative movement to adapt to the times."

The Republican Party must heed this quote in the coming months: If you don't change, you won't change.  

If the Republican Party doesn't re-establish a core set of principles that address the issues the majority of Americans care about, we will continue to lose support.  If we don't understand that raising money is not the most important function of a campaign or political organization, we will continue to raise less than our leftist counterparts.  If we don't stop holding ourselves hostage to an entrenched consultant class, we only have ourselves to blame.  If we don't set specific goals and make investments in new media and political technology training, we will continue to cede grassroots dominance to our political opponents.  And if we don't start listening to the American people, and addressing their concerns, rather than pursuing our own agenda, we will continue to be unpopular.

Election Day is one week away.  No matter the specific Republican vote count for President or seat count in the House and Senate, it will be time to finally admit that the status quo is not working; it will be time to democratize the Republican Party, to rewrite the playbook; it will be time rebuild.

It will be time to stop throwing blame around, and for every Republican official, candidate, staffer and consultant to open their eyes and ears to a new approach.

As someone who has advocated a new approach to the Republican Party for the last four years, I look forward to a more open, inclusive discussion about the way forward.  Meanwhile, I look forward to your input here.

 

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1994

I think that when people used to think of the GOP they thought of small government / strong military / family values.  And that was a simple formula that people understood and could relate with.  The GOP has strayed:

1. By mismanging Iraq and reacting slowly to failures played out in the media, they made the GOP appear incompetent to manage a strong military.

2. Growing the deficit...

3. By basically eliminating taxes for 50% of the populations this removes the immedicay of the tax issue for 50% of America.  Most people don't understand that corporate taxes and taxes on business owners go down to them eventually.

4. Terry Schiavo.  We should have focused on getting vouchers out instead of this case.  It further marginalized the GOP.  With Bill Frist diagnosing her on TV it made the GOP look like a circus act.

5. Not reforming and shrinking government when we had the chance.

On a presonal note, I used to give money to the GOP because I beleived it would make the nation better and provide a better business environment.  Now I still won't vote for an actively socialist candidate like Omaba, but the passion is gone. 

 

1994

I think that when people used to think of the GOP they thought of small government / strong military / family values.  And that was a simple formula that people understood and could relate with.  The GOP has strayed:

1. By mismanging Iraq and reacting slowly to failures played out in the media, they made the GOP appear incompetent to manage a strong military.

2. Growing the deficit...

3. By basically eliminating taxes for 50% of the populations this removes the immedicay of the tax issue for 50% of America.  Most people don't understand that corporate taxes and taxes on business owners go down to them eventually.

4. Terry Schiavo.  We should have focused on getting vouchers out instead of this case.  It further marginalized the GOP.  With Bill Frist diagnosing her on TV it made the GOP look like a circus act.

5. Not reforming and shrinking government when we had the chance.

On a presonal note, I used to give money to the GOP because I beleived it would make the nation better and provide a better business environment.  Now I still won't vote for an actively socialist candidate like Omaba, but the passion is gone. 

 

the problem you ignore joshk,

the problem you ignore joshk, is that while conservatives want to argue that we have to cut captial gains and such now or it will hurt the middle class later.

the middle class is hurting now, income has not match inflation, alot of people are put into bankruptcy because of medial bills.

The democrats will win because they are becoming pro-active at solving their problems.

 

if all conservatives can offer is a, hands off trust us eventually the market will fix it, why should they vote for you?

The problem hasn't been big government but ineffecient government, but honestly I ask Conservatives how much would you want the Federal budget cut and then what are you realistically wanting cut?

I have seen some say the government should be 1/4 the size it is now, are they ready to run on the need to cut medicare, or medicaid or social security? if not they they have to admit taxes have to increase, and that won't happen either how do you achieve smaller government?

The future won't see us return to smaller government untill the Middle class is back on its feet.

basically the GOP needs to attract moderates, minorites and young voters, and I don't see how your current platform does that.

people aren't against the government helping them get healthcare especially when millions with pre-existing conditions get ignored.

people aren't against the government helping them pay for college espeically with the way school prices increase each year.

people don't wanna hear about people who make 20 million a year saying they only have 10 million after taxes, as the wonder how they will make their house payment next year.

People want to feel their governemnt cares, and the hands off the market will fix everything, government helping you means you are lazy, doesn't fly anymore.

so I think its not smaller government they want but effeicent government. I know if the GOP would stop being so opposed to government programs to help people, and less about giving tax cuts to the top and hoping it moves down, I could see myself voting GOP again.

 

p.s.

are non-conservatives allowed to post here? I know on redstates we are chased away with pitchforks.

Democrats not equal to good government

When you realize that almost all the upper leadership of the Democratic party sends their children to private schools you realize what the Democratic leadership really believes about government provided services.  The Obama Administation will probably not have a single public university graduate in its upper levels. 

While the Democrats talk about delivery high quality government service they ship items with Fedex, they send their children to Sidwell Friends or the Dalton School, they get their masters in government at Harvard and they live in communities with private security.  And when they get old, they rush themselves to Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins for treatment.

When the presidents children start attending DC public schools, then the Democrats can talk about delivering good government services.

What the Democrats are great out as delivering government goodies in the form of jobs, grants, setasides, contracts, and affirmative action.

 

Right

I don't think the democratic party is perfect far from it.

You are still thinking in a Top down view. Progressive politics is about being people powered.

I believe that the base of the party can pressure and hold our leaders accountable. I also Believe Obama about his promise for transperancy. Would anyone here be shocked to hear that Progressive plan to push him to adopt our agenda?

We plan to hold our leaders accountable to the voters. and when they aren't we will run primary challengers.

 

You talk about how the Democrats will screw up fine, but tell me what the Republicans will do right?

 

I am 24, Bush is the only president I have really known, and he is the reason I am a democrat. I never hear Republicans talk about how we can end poverty or hunger, how we can improve education or healthcare for the 40 million who don't have it. How we can work to reduce the damage we have done to the environment. its always tax cuts, and leave the markets alone.

to me sounds like Republicans only care about being rich. So sure the democrats aren't perfect but we will push them.

But its still Taboo to even say Global Warming is a huge problem in the Republican party, so those who care about it go democrats,

We are the richest country in the world, yet how many children will starve today in this country, but the Republican party calls poor people lazy, so those who care go democrats.

I always hear that your current leadership was so bad, then Why did you guys never vote them out? even now its always the Democrats will be worse.

will are you saying the ideas themselves are bad, or the execution?

if its the idea, then whats a better idea to help?

if its the execution, contribute how can we do it more effiecent?

And yeah those Democrats who lose their way, will see themselves with primary challengers.

 

 

progressive is not about empowering people

What part of busing a blue collar kid across Seattle or Louisville is the empowering party.  What part of banning transfats is the empowering party. What part of the DC public schools is the good government and trust people and holding politicians accountable?  If you look at the bluest counties in the U.S. the local citizens have almost no power and experience a lousy level of government services.  See Detroit, Milwaukee, Balitmore, St Louis, Cleveland. South Central Los Angeles.

It would be easier to take the Democrats seriously about environmental issues is they held urban cities to the same standards that they want to  impose on suburban whites. It would be easier to think that the Democrats cared about the environment if they did not support open borders and unlimited immigration.

If you want to see the difference between Democrats and Republicans, the Republicans vote their own out of office and the Democrats keep electing people like Marion Barry.

 

you are talking about the

you are talking about the Democratic party in the past.

 

if you are saying that a new generation can't change the party then thats the problem. The electorate is changing

I am 24, there is a whole new generation of voters that grew up during the 8 years of the Bush presidency and right now probably 2 to 1 they are democrats, ok you say democrats are bad fine

 

but what is the Republican party besides we say we won't be as bad as democrats?

how does the Republican party expand and attrack new voters?

I don't want to hear who is to blame for what I want to hear what you think is the better solutions then.

 

ok Democrats are not credible on the environment then what is the Republican answer besides democrats will only screw it up?

 

What is the Republcian answer to the enviroment?

It is called private-property rights.  When people are allowed to own and manage their own property and be completely responsible for it then they have vested interest in keeping it clean.  If a company mismanages thier property and pollutes it and that pollution spills over to propery owned by others then they wil be legally liable for it, so they have vested interest in not doing that.

 

This is idealistic in the extreme.

 I can only assume you have never seen a typical modern cattle feedlot, or any type of factory farm.

There are any number of types of businesses who have no "vested interest in keeping [their property] clean".

So is believing that the EPA will keep us clean.

Given their track record, I stand by my original comment.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The failings of the EPA don't make your statement make sense.

You might be right about that but...

In general wealth invites people to better handle the environment.  The less a society is living on the fringe the more it will take care of its enviroment.  Look at Haiti and the Dominican Republic for starts.  You are not going to find a lot of open furnaces burning computer mother boards to salvage the scrap metal here in the states, but you will in China (but here is the secret China doesn't like it either) until people can find jobs that pay better.

Slight tangent:

As one of those much heralded receipient of the future Obama tax cut (I believe in that like I believe I'll get about a fifty cents on the dollar for my social security contribution when I can collect in 43 years( it will  probably be closer to a dime))  I know where the obama tax hikes going to hit.  In office equipment at first, I know the boss, his standard of living will remain the same my computer will get older.  Dell will get twenty less orders.

Yes soak the rich but when you want  a new computer for your office or a new chair or whatever don't waste a second believing the gov is going to send you a new one

You might be right about that but...

In general wealth invites people to better handle the environment.  The less a society is living on the fringe the more it will take care of its enviroment.  Look at Haiti and the Dominican Republic for starts.  You are not going to find a lot of open furnaces burning computer mother boards to salvage the scrap metal here in the states, but you will in China (but here is the secret China doesn't like it either) until people can find jobs that pay better.

Slight tangent:

As one of those much heralded receipient of the future Obama tax cut (I believe in that like I believe I'll get about a fifty cents on the dollar for my social security contribution when I can collect in 43 years( it will  probably be closer to a dime))  I know where the obama tax hikes going to hit.  In office equipment at first, I know the boss, his standard of living will remain the same my computer will get older.  Dell will get twenty less orders.

Yes soak the rich but when you want  a new computer for your office or a new chair or whatever don't waste a second believing the gov is going to send you a new one

Frum's Self Fulfilling Prophecy

Can anyone explain how declaring defeat for our side benefits anybody other than our oppponents?

David Frum has spent this campaign training his fire at Palin and McCain instead of Obama and Nancy Pelosi. Frum the advocate of the Republican Party becoming anti-obesity advocates (yes this is a major proposal he has been championing) has been downright destructive this campaign season.

Lets spend this last week trying to defeat the bad guys and elected good conservatives.

I'm not sure he's declaring defeat

Why is being critical of yourself or your party such a negative?  The Republican party is getting hammered this election.  Standing around saying "all is well" doesn't help anyone -- I would argue that it only prolongs the inevitable.

Seriously, how many more Ted Stevens need to show up before we see if our own house is in order?

I don't think the electorate disagrees with the *advertised* principles of the party, but your crazy if you haven't paid attention to the stewards of those principles.  They're not doing anyone any favors.  The electorate is turned off by the stewards, not the principles.

It's OK to say the guys are not doing their jobs.  It won't win the immediate election, but if the strategy is to only win elections in spite of the stewards, than conservatism will lose even when you think it's winning.

jro is exactly right

It is not the principles of the party that Americans have a problem with, it is the prioritization of those principles. The economy is in shambles, inflation is out of control, elderly people are losing money in the market, people are losing their homes or their cities are impacted by the housing crisis and republicans are talking about gay marriage, earmarks and the capital gains tax. All important to some, but not right now.

I feel like Republicans are in denial....we have a progressive tax code and will have one for the forseeable future. We spent way too much money over the past eight years and at some point we will have to pay higher taxes for it. No president (D or R) has decreased the size of the government. If we have to tax somebody, why not people that make the most money? I'm not saying I agree with it, but you have to be realistic,and look at it from the perspective of the majority of Americans. So the appropriate response would be for Republicans to counter with their own education,and  health care platforms, to show they too care about the middle class and not just wealthier Americans. The problem is, Republicans hardly mention health care or education. So the interaction with the middle class is lacking since they have lost the tax argument to Obama. Republicans need to focus on their solutions for the 21st century, not hold onto their beliefs from the 1990s. A good place to start-

1) Corruption- clean up the party (goodbye Stevens) 2) taxes- come up with a plan for BIG tax  cuts to the middle class, then after the recession work on cleaning up the tax code (getting rid of the AMT, etc) 3) Healthcare- I don't like McCain or Obama's plans...start from scratch and make sure to illustrate how the plan benefits people in bad situations, not upper middle income families (ie single mom with cancer, kids with disabilities)

Sometimes the Media Get It Right

Good journalism is not "fair and balanced." It is truthful and accurate.

Not that the media often adhere to this. Too often they are scurrying to quote someone who denies that the earth is round, to get a "balance" of voices on an issue. But in the glare of overwhelming evidence, the media won't ignore the obvious.

This election cycle they are no more being "biased" against the McCain campaign than they have been against, say, O.J. Simpson. I am not equating McCain and O.J., except insofar as McCain's campaign is a DOG, just like O.J.'s transparent defenses.

There are other factors at play, of course. The herd mentality, for example. And don't forget, it wasn't that long ago that McCain himself was THE media darling. MORe than one reporter admits dismay over the Straight Talk Express turning into a cynical, negative, smear-ridden bus to nowheresville.

 

We need to put our money (and time) where our mouth is

Generally, conservatives propose cuts to social programs because we think that the federal government should not be in the business of addressing certain concerns, that the private sector is better equipped to handle certain problems, and that the programs are simply not efficient.

We want small government that leaves a light footprint and thus provides more freedom to the American people to live independent lives and make all Americans better off financially as well.

We simulaneously argue that voluntary contributions (and local governments to some degree) should take care of a large number of problems which the federal government programs claim to address.

This is a major philosophical difference between modern conservatism and liberalism. For liberals, control over government (specifically the federal government) is the whole ball game.  Their agenda to build a better America revolves around government and government alone.

Conservative plans to improve the country require government control and coordinated voluntary action. However, the modern conservative movement has focused almost entirely on winning federal office (so we can cut federal programs) when we should be working equally as hard to build the credible voluntary and local solutions for health care, poverty reduction, and other problems that make cuts in federal programs politically feasible.

We need to build a new infrastructure to rival and outdo the lefties when it comes to winning elections, but we also need to build a new infrastructure to drive the local and private solutions we talk about.

We need to step up and develop ways to handle social problems through organized and effective voluntary means. Otherwise, it is really hard to justify the big cuts in government we want to see to nonideological voters and people who want to help others but have been convinced by the Left that government is the only way to dramatically alleviate social ills.

Government is needed for some problems, not all.

I'm a 28 year old undeclared voter from Massachusetts. This is going to be long.

Here's a story for you to justify my comments here. I spent 4 years in Austria (2003-2007), earning my PhD. It's a hard science PhD, so students get a monthly stipend, a.k.a. a salary -- just like what happenes here in the USA. And of course, we pay Austrian taxes on that salary, a portion of which is an unemployment insurance tax. What I found interesting is how EU-member students feel about that tax, which makes me strongly dislike this particular facet of social democracy.

Basically, after finishing the thesis defense, the PhD contract would end, and the students would stop earning their salary. One would think that a freshly minted PhD student would be hustling on to the next job opportunity to make sure they could keep supporting themselves. I sure was -- we all graduated from a top notch institute, so jobs aren't hard to find, in Austria or any other country. But a large number of the EU-member students said, "well, I think I need a 6 month vacation to recover from that strenuous PhD, so I'll just go on unemployment for awhile."

This leaning back and letting the government support them while they relaxed just shocked me, since it would be easy for them to find a very good job indeed. Not only was this completely socially acceptable, to take unemployment benefits when they weren't necessary. But people even felt justified in doing this, because after all, they had paid that tax, and that's what it's there for. To support the newly minted PhD student while he/she recovers from that strenuous academic achievement.

There's a lot that I learned in my total five years abroad (1 year in Germany, 4 years in Austria), and it made me feel more American than I've ever felt in my life. I came away from those years with a general sense (that I can not justify with anything better than anecdotes) that the social democracy over there is too coddling in many respects, and makes it so when people have problems the first place they look is to the government. And that the relatively hands-off democracy that we have over here endows citizens with a can-do, will-do attitude that fosters greater independence, and a willingness to help themselves.

But. I am voting a straight Democratic ticket this election.

As much as I disliked many facets of the European social democracy, I believe that there are some problems that are too big for people to handle alone, and where government intervention is required. Take health care. People will have a hell of a time helping themselves if they're not healthy first. The current health care market excludes people with pre-existing conditions, and it is hellaciously expensive to receive even preventative care. Free market solutions are not controlling costs. If we want poor, umemployed folks to help themselves out, get a job, get on their feet again, how can we expect them to do that effectively if years without health care has left them with a host of preventable illnesses? Isn't this a place where government could ensure that everybody has access to affordable health care? I don't want to force everybody to adhere to some artificial standards of health, but why not make sure that people can see doctors and treat preventable illnesses if they need to?

While the Republican cries for 'smaller government' are admirable in principle -- because I don't want us to turn into a bunch of spoiled, coddled citizens, and I don't want to pay for waste -- they usually don't acknowledge that there are some areas where government is needed. (Except for running the military, of course, and rightly so.) I could see myself voting GOP in the future if someone acknolwedged that not all government is bad -- that we need it for things like maintaining the rule of law, physical infrastructure, and basic health and security. And the GOP has to knock it off with this anti-intellectual, we only like Christians baloney, but that would be a topic for another post.

The GOP is better on healthcare

Take health care. People will have a hell of a time helping themselves if they're not healthy first. The current health care market excludes people with pre-existing conditions, and it is hellaciously expensive to receive even preventative care. Free market solutions are not controlling costs.

Actually, Govt meddling is what drives up costs.

More mandates make health insurance more restrictive and more expensive. A healthy young guy like you cannot get a simple low-cost health insurance plan in most states, you are stuck paying for risks and conditions and treatments (breast cancer screening?) you wont ever need.

It drives up costs.

Its a myth that the health care sector is 'free market' it is the most regulated industry we have - and that regulation makes it more and more screwed up, ironically driving people to even MORE demands for Govt intervention. Obama will make it worse for sure - his mandates will make jobs more expensive, and cost jobs, and at the same time lock people rigidly into emplyoer-based plans. 3rd party payers is part of what makes cost get out of control and he will make it worse.

McCain's plan of allowing you to buy plans from any state would be a boon to someone like you, allowing you to tap into a cheaper and more flexible healthcare plan.

 

I could see myself voting GOP in the future if someone acknolwedged that not all government is bad -- that we need it for things like maintaining the rule of law, physical infrastructure, and basic health and security.

It would be a strawman to suggest the GOP has ever been otherwise. The GOP has always been good on the rule of law and maintaining law and order. Gingrich once said he wanted a Government that did a few things VERY WELL.

But on healthcare, I would argue that healthcare is about 15% of GDP, and so is food; most families can afford their food budget, so why does Government spend 50% of the money (over $1 trillion) on healthcare, as if people cannot afford it? It goes back to the fact that 3rd party payment system is a fundamentally flawed one. Most people (except those on food stamps) pay for their own food and can budget reasonably. We cannot budget healthcare reasonable because payments and systems are built around 3rd party payers

.The real solution to controlling costs is *less* health insurance more direct cost reduction in health care itself: health prices listed publicly; health savings accounts so we have more 'direct pay' for healthcare.

The GOP is better on healthcare. You will have more choice and lower overall costs than under the Democrats. the Democrats promise the 'free lunch' but we will ALL end up picking up the tab on that.

 

Free market enterprise is the solution...

...and we had 8 years to put it together and we got bupkus.

Sorry, but history doesn't support your sales pitch.  Given the opportunity to do something about it, costs have skyrocketed and the Republican party didn't give a rat's ass about those who suffered until an election year.

The GOP is no better on health care than the Donkeys.

We didnt do 'free enterprise' in past 8 years

"Sorry, but history doesn't support your sales pitch."

Yes and no. We got Republicans, but we didnt get any conservative reform advances in these areas. What little things the GOP wanted to do in the conservative direction were always blocked.

Not on education - Bush did NCLB, and let Sen Kennedy write the bill; Sen Kennedy wrote it in a way that requires an army of bureaucrats and took out any school choice stuff.

Not on healthcare - Bush pushed but never got real expansion in health-savings-accounts; instead he did the biggest medicare expansion since LBJ, the drug benefit.

In both cases, Bush and the Republican majority 'triangulated' themselves away from a conservative domestic policy agenda in these areas. So your rather simplistic formulation on the one hand is on target in criticizing "we got bupkus" but off-tartet in that: The policies that I've mentioned in my post have not been implemented. You can't say they wont work because they've not been tried. Let's try them first and then judge them.

Yep, and clarification

Yep, didn't mean to imply that your suggestions wouldn't work toward health care policy.  I meant that the party leadership didn't do their job when they had the chance, thus, we get nothing out of it.  Because they didn't act when they could have, I think it sends the impression that they don't care about health care.  It's hard to argue with that impression, too.

In the past 8 years (save for the last two), the Republicans had a real opportunity to put those policies into play and they didn't prioritize them or swapped them, i.e. HSAs vs. Medicare prescription drugs or letting Kennedy (!) write the NCLB bill.

It was policy execution that was the issue, and I think today's R candidates are paying the price for that from an impression point-of-view in the same way that D candidates are contending with impressions of tax-and-spend idealogy.

Not to sound like a broken record but...

Within the confines of a traditional/conventional GOP campaign, probably no one could have done better than the McCain advisers/consultants/strategists.  The problem is that McCain and all of the GOP candidates travel down the same wide boulevard every election cycle.  As a result they've become so very predictable.  And that is what is hurting the conservative movement as a whole.  Because, you see, this "wide boulevard" is rig'd only for moderates with very limited leadership capabilities.  [F.Thompson's, Duncan Hunter's & Tom Tancredo's need not apply!] And why don't candidates move off of this well traveled path, you ask?   Because that's where the money is.  Or so they think.   Those who traditionally dole out the money are the ones responsible for restraining the conservative movement. Keeping it from breaking free and bolting much farther in a nationalistic [a new, inclusive and diverse form of nationalism] rightward direction as Middle America wants.    So,  the entire conservative movement is bogged down.  Stagnant.

The word "radical" has been tossed around a lot lately.  Mostly describing the left.  But if the Movement Conservatives are to survive, they are going to have to "radically" change the way they choose candidates, run campaigns, how they raise/spend money and who they take money from.   Some money we don't want and must toss it back at the donor.  Learning to operate on less.  Sticking to our values and principles must come first and if we take the high road, sufficient money will eventually come and everything will fall into place.  And above all steer clear of the well traveled "wide boulevard".    It will be significantly harder work and thats why most want nothing to do w/it.  Most contemporary GOP consultants/advisers have become lazy. They want to make a "killin" w/every tiny, predictable effort.  They only want to take the giant steps rather than the baby steps. Thats the rotten system they think they have to work within.  There are other routes, however, that will take the traveler to the same destination.  
 
So, yes,  there's nothing to be gained by continuing to brutalize these McCain strategists. True.  They're doing the best they can with what they're given.  They're working within an obsolete, worn-out system where there is no room/space for any sort of new thought or idea.   New "radical"  methods and strategies are needed especially in the area of fundraising so that strong conservative leaders can bypass this rotten system and hence  have increased and enhanced opportunities of success.    Darvin Dowdy
 
 
 

 

The ELITES now support .. egads, the LEFT

You put your finger on it - the MONEY in politics is now behind the most left-wing candidate ever ... millions and millions. Huge trial lawyer money in Texas to buy seats for pro-abortionist Democrats. Gay millionaire seeding defeat for profamily Colorado pols. And Hollywood shelling out $$ for liberals.

You pass the hat for traditional conservative candidates - nothing there. What gives? Any 'new system' would have to tap into some deeper roots or cast a much wider net. Is it possible? Yes, but it would take yoeman's work to pull it off. 10 million taxpayers willing to pitch in $250 each would be a $2.5 billion pool for a cycle. The trick is getting 10 million activated, when in fact RNC and others are more like a 1 million membership level.

So how do the lib Dems do it? This may be the answer ... the Gramscians have TAKEN OVER foundations, boards, levers of power in many places ...

Obama’s brand of Marxism is Neo-Gramscian Marxism. Gramsci pondered why the proletariat never rose up in violent revolution the way Marx said they would. He realized that the “revolution” would have to be a peaceful struggle of ideas from the bottom up, or the inside out. He said capitalism can only exist through the oppressed classes’ agreement to buy into the ruling class’s hegemony, and the way to break the hegemony is to form coalitions among oppressed minority groups until they are strong enough to form a counter-hegemonic culture and deconstruct the existing hegemony from within.

If you look at the page on Obama’s web site where they have all the little variations of the “O” logo, one for each oppressed group (none for straight white males), you see evidence of Gramscian Marxism at work.

Here’s a great read on Gramsci and Tocqueville and the culture war in America.

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/FonteCultureWar.shtml

 

It's the middle, stupid

Conservative and moderate commentators frequently trot out the observation that we live in a center-right country.  I'm not sure that's true.  The most common evidence cited is that a much higher percentage of voters (around 40%) self-identify as "conservative" than as "liberal."  I suspect that this figure reflects the Republican success in making "liberal" a dirty word, rather than a real hard-core conservative base of 40 percent of the population.

But, let's assume that this is a "center-right" country.  In that case, the right cannot succeed without at least a significant chunk of the "center."  But the current conservative agenda gives absolutely nothing to centrists.  Rove succeeded in avoiding this problem by bad-mouthing Kerry, but that strategy almost failed in 2004, it did fail in 2006, and it is failing now in 2008 because the moderates recognize it for what it is -- an effort to distract them from the fact that conservatives offer them nothing.  That's why we see so many prominent moderate Republicans endorsing Obama.  What is there in McCain's platform for the center to like?  An indefinite commitment to war in Iraq?  Continued tax cuts for the wealthy?  A health care plan that throws us into the open market with zero bargaining power against the insurance companies?  An economic program that denies all Republican responsibility for the mess we're currently in?  A Vice Presidential candidate who can't answer simple questions from Katie Couric and insults the vast majority of Americans who live outside of small towns and the South as not part of America?

I campaigned for Reagan in 1980, and voted for him in 1984 because the Democrats were clearly out of ideas for how to address the country's problems.  But it's clear that we've come around the circle.  When we're in the mess we're in, and the only answers the Republicans have are another capital gains tax cut and insults to their opponents -- whether it's "socialist", "terrorist", or not "pro-America" -- then they haven't earned the support of any thinking centrist.  Until the Republican party realizes this fact, it's going to remain a bunch of losers in every sense of the word.

McCain *IS* a centrist

But the current conservative agenda gives absolutely nothing to centrists.

This statement is self-refuting. Look at McCain's record. He's done more for the moderates than the conservatives.

The rest of your questions are also out of the DNC playbook and far from fair-minded. You should go back and weed out the false and bogus premises and presumptions and try again...

like this:

An indefinite commitment to war in Iraq? FALSE. His commitment is to WIN and bring the troops HOME with HONOR. etc. Dont you want THAT?

 

Moderates are nowhere...

..."be ye either hot or cold. If you are luke warm I'll spew you out of my mouth." Someone said that once. Makes perfect sense.  There is no place for a moderate in this political climate unless a person wants to be a democrat lacky.  

Compromising w/democrats has put us in the mess we're in now! DD

Neither party can win the White House without swing voters.

Neither party can win the White House without swing voters. Your reference is badly misapplied.

There is a massive segment of our society...

...that has become exasperated with the process and they have either dropped out of the process (stayed at home) or they've protest voted for some 3rd party nutroot.   The authentic conservative leader that can lure these above mentioned back into the GOP fold can tell these "swing voters" of yours to take a hike.  These indecisive bubble heads won't be needed.  DD

A Conservative Platform for the RNC Everyone Could Subscribe To

There are a lot of points here, but we seem to have shied away from a potential platform for a conservative party that people could subscribe to.  A common sense party of conservatism that people scratch their heads and go "gee, why hasn't that been done before?"

The Contract with America was popular and worked, but it fell apart because those people in Washington lost their way.  The compass went awry and the people in power got greedy and corrupt.  To be sure, the following "platform" is somewhat controversial, but I think that it's simplicity is what would make it appealing. 

We all have differing opinions of common sense, to be sure, but I and many people I've talked to agree it's sensical enough

1.  Term Limits.  Two for President, Four for Congressmen.  Three for Senators.  This would accomplish several things pretty quickly, but almost immediately it would help lessen the pork barrel spending that exists because no longer would there be a need for sitting representatives to bribe their people back home to keep themselves in office.  States like West "Everything Named Byrd" Virginia and Alaska "Stevens' and Young's Super Outdoor Adventure" might suffer, but they managed before their representatives got there, and it would significantly help the national debt to not have the level of spending that occurs.  Additionally, it would give greater emphasis and strength to the people to pay attention to politics and the kind of representation they have in Washington.

2.  Decrease the Size of Government by 15%.  This isn't a cut in benefits as much as it's a massive layoff of unnecessary people.  Imagine a private company that operated as inefficiently as our federal government does.  There needs to be a top to bottom review of every job and combine those jobs that are simply unnecessary.  (For instance, if you have two jobs that are similar or nearly similar but which through economies of scale could be done by one person, then layoff one, give the other person a 50% raise and you're still saving 50% of a salary.)

3.  Completely Privatize Education.  This is not, however, a privatization of standards, but rather, a privatization of the delivery of education.  Colleges and universities are private entities that do quite well for themselves.  There's no reason that their success cannot be duplicated on an elementary and secondary level.  Sweden has done it with companies like IKEA with a pretty decent amount of success.  Attach the money to the students, tell the companies that the students have to hit the benchmarks, and any money from the vouchers the companies save is their profit.  Parents can choose their schools and let the companies pick up the funding to bus kids to their school if the parents want their child to go there, since from a business case if they're good enough and effective enough, it will be worth their while to have as many customers as possible.

4.  Rename the Department of Defense and Homeland Security to War and Defense (respectively).  This may seem like a superficial concept, and perhaps costly in execution, but it would change the manner in which we conduct business throughout the world and domestically as well as the way in which we defend ourselves against terrorists.  Our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan have been un-conservative but certainly necessary (based upon the intelligence and information available at the time), but they were not matters of defense.  They were acts of war and should not be disguised in Newspeak.  We need a government that is clear to our people and straightforward in our intentions.  By renaming these departments, we could then target our funding and budgetary needs according to the wishes of the people.  To be sure, I am not advocating cutting our military's budget, because we need a strong military to ensure our protection (Si vis pacem, para bellum... if you want peace, prepare for war).  But let us not disguise this budget from the people.

5.  Voter ID.  Require voters to show ID.  It's simple, it's fair, and the vast majority of Americans agree with this proposition.

6.  Social Security.  Someone has to break the bad news to the American people: there's not enough money in the pot for everyone.  Allow the people a chance to decide what they want to do.  Each one.  They can raise the retirement age for themselves, cut their benefits and make them up somewhere else, or cut themselves out entirely and go a different route.  But that decision should be up to them.  Let them decide.  Each one of them at an age when they can make the decision.  Not 18 or 21, but 30 or 35.  When they have families and have to start planning for their retirement and still have thirty years to decide.  Those above that point can do it to.  Make it a binding, legal decision.  Use a notary to seal it, but make it something that holds.

7.  Medicare and Medicaid.  These, too, need to be considered and should be privatized like education.  Let the senior and the disabled choose their plan and have the government send their money to the private sector.  It would bolster the sector (stock market, economy, etc.) and at the same time allow for the costs to drop through competition.  Currently, the government is a free check and gets charged whatever the provider thinks they can get away with.  A private sector insurance provider would be different.

So there are my thoughts for a seven-point platform.  I'll be interested to see how it gets torn apart in this forum.

 

all really good points, BUT

Elderly people are the most reliable voting bloc in the country for now, so no one is touching SS or Medicare. I like Bush's plan, but he failed to explain it properly....people are scared. The word "privatize" is frightening to people with limited education and very little wealth. Plus, you're counting on a politician to say "we're cutting benefits"....highly unlikely (not that I don't agree with you). But I would guess that as more young people vote, this could happen because they know they aren't getting SS anyway.

Voter ID- good idea. Overall we need voting methods that match turnout and techonology for the 21st century. I think they do a good job here in NC (electronic machines with verification). That will cost money, but make the campaigns pay for it!

Term limits- they would probably be good net-net, but some people do serve their people very well and do not abuse power. However, given the recent power hungry corruption, hard to argue against it.

Cut the size of gov't....good idea, but has never happened. Guiliani had a plan to not hire replacements for gov't retirees which I thought was a straightforward approach, but if history is any indication....

Would make a good platform....now you just need to find a politician willing to tell people they want to privatize education, SS and Medicare ;-)

Which is Why We Need Someone Eloquent!

Yes, we have to explain to the people why the benefits have to be cut.  It's simple math.  Basic arithmetic.  Yep, I stink at basic math and can do calculus, but there's no way we can pay for all of this stuff.

What is necessary for my plan to work is someone charismatic and cheerful and who can convince people that white is black and who could convince a starving dog out of his meal.  Horrible metaphors, but appropriate.  We have a terrified population, but they're simply being fed lies, have a rough idea that they're being fed lies and don't know for sure, and I think we need to tell them the truth... provided we have a plan to fix the problem and not just some clever accounting and wordplay.

To be sure, it's a terrific risk and a gamble, but at this point in the Republican and conservativce movement, what else do we have to lose?  There's not really a whole lot farther to fall.  And in the end, we'll be vindicated by facts (although no one certainly likes an "I told you so").

I agree with you, though, I don't know of any politician crazy enough to take this sort of chance.  You need someone crazy enough to say whatever's on their mind, but someone that crazy simply isn't electable.  Hell, now that I've said what I've said here, there's no way I could ever get office if I ever ran (not that I've seriously considered it).  The media and the panicked mob would twist the facts and twist the words.

Many red states would oppose privatized education

I grew up in the rural midwest. The school was the center of life in our small town. And it was only made possible by busing in students from up to 45 miles away.  Keeping the school alive was considered imperative, and the school board accepted that as its first order of business, and took its job very seriously.

Communities like this are the norm in huge swathes of the midwest. And the voters there are NOT going to support turning what they are currently doing on a voluntary basis over to corporations operating on a profit basis. Especially when they have already seen banks, grocery stores and gas stations leave town in the name of higher profit.

 

In addition: term limits are a pretty clumsy and indirect response to the problem of pork. When everyone is first or second term member, everyone has an equal opportunity to  land pork.

I'm opposed to term limits. If the local electorate loves their senator/representative, then they should have the freedom to keep on returning them.

I Don't Think That's Necessarily the Case...

There's a simple way to offset the cost of busing in students: simply raise the voucher allowance for a student in the midwest.  Because of the distance involved it would obviously cost more, both to recruit teachers, get the students there, and maintain all of that.  On the other hand, the number of students in a more suburban/urban environment would drive down the cost because of the scale.  There are many parts of extreme rural New Hampshire that have a similar circumstance to large areas of the midwest.

And large parts of Sweden are similarly rural, yet their privatization programs have met with success there all the same.  It's a matter of demonstrating the success of the program in pilot areas and demonstrating its capacity to succeed.  I agree that voters are not going to voluntarily turn over their tax dollars, but what of those county schools that need upgrading?  That need new technology and have demographics where not enough people are interested in fronting the money or approving the bond?  Do the students just suffer as a result?

And I believe I conceded that term limits are clumsy, and yes everyone would have an equal opportunity to acquire pork for their district.  The difference, however, is that without knowing the full rules and the complete inner workings, the potential for graft and pork is lessened.  There's no way to eliminate pork completely just as there's no way to eliminate corruption completely, but term limits are a good way to get people involved.

If people love their representative, then there are plenty of other ways that they can help their constituents.  Under my proposal (which by no means is the be-all, end-all... but, presuming it were to be the one) they could still be in Washington for twenty-six years. (2+2+2+2+6+6+6).  If they managed to get elected President, there'd be another eight.  That's a pretty substantial chunk of time and easily on par with what we have in Washington anyway.  So it's not that radical.

Sweden? Seriously?

You are going to sell this plan by saying "it works in Sweden"? Seriously?

As for "those county schools that need upgrading?  That need new technology and have demographics where not enough people are interested in fronting the money or approving the bond? " - where is that money going to come from in your scheme?

And you missed my key point - these small communities don't want a corporation running their schools. Becasue they run them themsleves - as they should.

 

New Zealand another school voucher success story

I hand't heard about Sweden, but I do know that New Zealand implemented school choice on a national level and it turned out to be a tremendous success.

It may not translate into political support, but it is a sure indicator that policy-wise this is the right thing to do.

There is so much waste and overhead in our current education system, so little performance and good results from it, that it is not hard at all to get a win/win/win from school choice.

Here in Texas, charter schools get only 80% of what public schools get money-wise, they teach a demographic profile of more challenging students, and they outperform the public schools. Universal school choice could multiple and magnify that kind of improvement tremendously.

Then You Too Miss My Key Point...

...which is that the federal government needs to get out of the business of education.  If the current system is working for your small town communities, then there's no reason it shouldn't continue to work.  The money would come down from the federal and state government per pupil through the voucher system to a private entity (your county) who could then administer their company however their executive board (school board) wishes.  There's nothing to suggest that this wouldn't be a suitable course of action, nor would it be prohibited under a private enterprise solution.

Under such a scheme as it has worked in other countries and places, each student is assigned a "fair education value."  That money follows the student as it does in all voucher programs.  Whatever corporation picks up the student would get the money.  Typically it's a pooled fund.  All the money from a certain set tax base goes into the fund and is redistributed back out, much as the current tax code does for other functions.  New Hampshire used to have an entirely locally funded (at a town level) system that was decreed "unconstitutional" because a fair education was offered to all students.  The current system is still a disaster, but it's better than the cash poor towns that offered their students nothing and the "rich" towns that were able to offer their students the best money could buy.  I recognize that this sounds a bit like socialism, but it's the only way that a voucher system works.  The benefit is that parents, tax breaks, and local districts can chip in their own money over and above the voucher to send their students to a place they choose.  Typically vouchers have been set at about 10-25% below the "fair education value" currently necessary so all the money isn't taken out of the school district.

If the local system works, then great.  But for the larger school districts in which the current educational system is a tremendous waste, then it would behoove us all to go a different route.  And those smaller, successful, local schools that choose to "incorporate" can certainly tax their residents a bit more to offer a higher quality product to their citizens and reap additional voucher students down the road, thereby creating a cycle of growth for their organization.

As I've said, this isn't a perfect system, but the government's involvement in education needs to end.  And creating a system where there is an immediate, results-driven impact on the education sector would do that.  In one fell swoop we'd have teacher accountability, teachers paid for what their results are, and schools that are failing their students penalized while schools that create successful students rewarded.  Money is a powerful and useful motivator and CEOs with their balance sheets make cold and difficult choices that politicians don't like to do.

Why "must" government's involvement in education end?

Why "must" government's involvement in education end?

Do you see a lot of people looking at Blackwater getting $100 per bag of laundry they do in Iraq and saying "well, that's certainly an improvement over the old system"?

90% of the children in America are in public school. In the name of ideology you want to uproot the current system and replace it with a for-profit system. Good luck selling that idea in the current climate of fear and loathing of Wall Street. And further good luck in convincing small town America that it is OK for a corporation - funded entirely by tax dollars - to come in a take control of the town's central asset.

For the sake of efficiency, I'm sure you not one a different corporation for each school - even if it started out that way consolidations would occur and soon you'd have Company A controlling all the schools in a wide geographic area. And when Company A starts deciding which school will get the championship winning football coach and which will get the rookie straight out of some 5th-rate college, there will pitchforks in the streets in Texas.

 

Inertia

So be it.  I'll concede this education argument because there's no reason to fight anymore... I'm never going to convince NextRightNando of its merits, even on principle.  If 90% of kids are in public education, then why change the system?  Of course, why should any of us change the tax code (we all pay income tax to the federal government), government employees (there's too many and they keep growing, we can't cut back now!), the way we take care of our energy (after all, we get the majority of our energy from oil, so why change that?), the growing rise of liberalism (too many college professors expounding a socialist liberal ideology ... we can't stop them), Social Security (too many people going to depend on it), Medicare/Medicaid (too many people currently depend on it now!), and the slow downfall of conservatism within the Republican party (too many big government types in the party at this point)?

I think you see where I'm going with this.  We have an education system that in too many areas of our country is controlled by teachers' unions and is all about more money and less results.  What other solution is there?  Certainly there have to be some clear government regulations involved that lays out what the expectations are for these corporations or private entities, but there's no reason it has to be corporations.  It can be townships or the current system of charter schools and private schools.  The difference is the accountability that is thus far supremely lacking in education.

Certainly there will be flaws in any system, just as there are flaws now.  The problem is: there aren't pitchforks in the streets of Texas over the education being offered to their students right now (middle of the pack) and instead that there are pitchforks being raised only over the coaches of their football teams.

Sorry if I offended you, but why make small towns pay the price?

Sorry if I offended you, but expecting rural America suffer in order to fix inner city schools is not just wrong, it is the wrong politics.

I Don't Take Offense... So Don't Worry

I don't take offense, so no need to worry there.  I'm here for the debate.  As I said at the beginning of my post: my idea(s) are far from perfect.

As for the voucher program going that broadly and the rural districts paying for the inner city schools, we already have a federal education grants that do that to some extent or another, how those are distrubuted is certainly up for debate.  Change the whole thing to flat block grants to the states so that New York and Illinois can decide how much the rural sections of their states get versus NYC and Chicago.

But, as for being offended, I assure you, that's never going to happen.  I openly challenge anyone to try to offend me!  I want to have a fun and open and engaging debate which seriously looks at some of these issues.  Not because I necessarily believe we're going to change anything (although I sincerely hope we do), but rather because at some point we need to take this country back to the principles upon which it was founded: a hands off government that stays out of our affairs except when absolutely necessary.

Making small towns pay

I meant that small towns were being made to pay for it not in terms of money but in terms of damage to an very important part of their social fabric.

Privatizing schools would, for a huge % of Americans, especially in red states, constitue the fedral government meddling in their local government affairs.

Indeed if someone don`t

Indeed if someone don`t change, it won`t change. It`s hard nowadays to change the way you are from bad to good but easyer to change it the other way. So many people can`t quit smoking even thus they know it`s so nocive and they are aware of the diseases it can provoche. When people saw they are caught in drug traffic, they invented legal herbs and so on.