Enduring Lessons From NY-23

For the better part of today, I have been reading reactions among the right to the news of Dede Scozzafava's withdrawl from the NY-23 race.  Probably the most oft repeated commentary I have seen is that the developments of this race once again prove that, "moderate Republicans rarely succeed, and true conservatism wins every time". 

Scozzafava dropping out is indeed a great thing for the conservative movement.  It represents a victory for the grassroots activists on the ground over a disconnected and out of touch Republican establishment.  But the analysis that says this proves "conservatism wins every time" is woefully misplaced, extremely lazy, and not at all grounded in reality.

This notion is an extension of rhetoric that has been used by Rush Limbaugh for years.  It has gained popularity as the "true conservative" (whatever that means) base has grown frustrated with what it sees as "squishy moderates" losing in national elections.  We heard it endlessly following John McCain's defeat in 2008, and had heard it previously when Bob Dole lost to Bill Clinton in 1996.

But the reality is very different.  This increasingly popular notion is simply false, and lets take a look at why.

Since World War II, the Republican Party has run sixteen presidential campaigns.  It has won nine of those campaigns and lost seven:

  • 1948 - Moderate Thomas Dewey (Loss)
  • 1952 - Moderate Dwight Eisenhower (Win)
  • 1956 - Moderate Dwight Eisenhower (Win)
  • 1960 - Moderate Richard Nixon (Loss)
  • 1964 -True Conservative Barry Goldwater (Loss)
  • 1968 - Moderate Richard Nixon (Win)
  • 1972 - Moderate Richard Nixon (Win)
  • 1976 - Moderate Gerald Ford (Loss)
  • 1980 - True Conservative Ronald Reagan (Win)
  • 1984 - True Conservative Ronald Reagan (Win)
  • 1988 - Moderate George HW Bush (Win)
  • 1992 - Moderate George HW Bush (Loss)
  • 1996 - Moderate Bob Dole (Loss)
  • 2000 - Moderate George W. Bush (Win)
  • 2004 - Moderate George W. Bush (Win)
  • 2008 - Moderate John McCain (Loss)

Haggle about my definitions if you wish - but lets just say I am pretty comfortable labeling each of these men as I have put forth above.  The only one I even find debatable is George W. Bush - but that is mostly because he talked like a "true conservative" in 2000, but acted completely differently once in office, and the only bit of "true conservatism" in his administration was a large tax cut, and high defense spending.

Anyway, back to the issue at hand.  Republican moderates have a remarkable habit of winning nationally.  The only times they lost, they tended to have non-ideological reasons for losing. 

In 1948 Truman outlfanked Dewey with his whistlestop tour of America, connecting with the average American.  In 1960, Nixon went up against the transcendent John Kennedy, blew the campaign big time in the televised debate, and still probably won that election, were it not stolen by Kennedy's electoral shennanigans.  In 1976, Ford angered the country by pardoning Nixon.  In 2008, the entire country hated the Republican party, and Abraham Lincoln probably would have lost.

Every single one of those moderate losses - with the exception of McCain, and to some degree Dewey - were in extremely narrow elections that were decided by essentially one state.

Transversely, the only "true conservative" elected to the White House since World War II was Ronald Reagan.  Barry Goldwater got slaughtered, and every other "true conservative" couldn't even make it out of the primary.  Reagan's election is often pointed to as proof of concept on this theory, but was it about ideology?  No - in 1980 it was about economic malaise and American hostages, and in 1984 it was about an economic resurgence under Reagan's leadership.

Could "true" conservative candidates have won in '48, '52, '56, '60, '68, '72, '76, '88, '92, '96, '00, '04 or 08?  It is certainly possible, but if they did, it wouldn't have been because of their ideology.

This same analysis applies to more than just national elections.  Moderate Republicans often win crushing victories, and "true conservative" candidates often go down in flames.  But the opposite is also true - often moderates get absolutely spanked, while conservatives dominate.  Far too often we think elections are about ideology simply because we believe deeply in something, when they very rarely are.

But even if they are, the evidence in the last sixty years shows us that being a moderate does not even come close to dooming one's candidacy, and being a conservative hardly means you "win every time".

The victory of the conservative grassroots in rejecting Scozzafava in favor of Hoffman is a great thing.  I applaud it.  I happen to belong to a wing of the party that is fiscally to the right of Reagan, so I am hardly arguing for us to turn to moderates to solve our electoral problems here.

My problem is cheap, dime store analysis that is devoid of logic or rationality.  We should argue for more conservative candidates where more conservative candidates can win - but going with the superficial and inaccurate echo chamber soundbites like "conservatism wins every time it is tried" as the accepted explanation for an eventual Hoffman victory simply cheapens the conversation.

If we want to win, we need to understand why we win, and why we lose.  Such nonsensical rhetoric does not help us in that regard, so I suggest we stop saying it.  Real political analysis deserves better.

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Matthew Said . . . .

"My problem is cheap, dime store analysis that is devoid of logic or rationality." 

Why be so critical of your own blog? 

convoluted much?

 

If that is the only quote that makes any sense to you in this blog entry,  you still have a problem with your query.

n/t

 

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Moderate?

I think you are misrepresenting the extent to which the GOP has strayed by lumping Scozzafava in with "moderates". She supports Card Check! Is that a moderate center right position? Is it even a center left position? Are there no standards for Republicans? If the tent gets that big it's going to be hard to hold it up.

ScozzaLeftwinger

Blew up in your face!  Endorses Democrat Owens... 

It will certainly be

It will certainly be interesting to watch the David Frum style "republican" walk back from that!

The Problem with Scozzafava...

is not that she was a pragmatic moderate, but was an out-and-out liberal on social issues, and a pretty liberal Republican on a host of economic issues (Card Check, stimulus etc.)

She was also a pretty clumsy politician, who made mistake after mistake during her campaign, which was neither well managed or adequately funded.   She was nominated by the GOP party establishment, and not by the primary voters -- which was the final nail in her coffin. 

Moderates should be welcomes into the party, but I don't see how the party can have a future with Scozzafava type candidates, except in very blue districts.

haggle

Haggle about my definitions if you wish - but lets just say I am pretty comfortable labeling each of these men as I have put forth above.  The only one I even find debatable is George W. Bush - but that is mostly because he talked like a "true conservative" in 2000, but acted completely differently once in office, and the only bit of "true conservatism" in his administration was a large tax cut, and high defense spending.

OK, here goes.  Bush was more conservative than Reagan.  He launched a big war on a whim.  His judge nominees were more conservative than Reagan's.  Both Presidents talked balanced budgets while cutting taxes and increasing spending to cause huge budgets.  Both Presidents were followed by competent Democrats who cleaned up their messes. 

"launching a war on a whim"

lgm, even if you believe George W. Bush launched a war "on a whim" (which I don't), with what principle of conservatism is "launching a war on a whim" consistent?

The conservatives didn't just

The conservatives didn't just give Bush their support--they gave him their fanatical devotion. If you pulled their respective polling data, Bush would probably prove FAR more popular with conservatives throughout his reign than was Reagan. Years after the public had abandoned Bush, and even after he'd left the economy and his party in ruins, and dragged the latter down to a complete massacre in 2008, self-identified conservative Republicans were still giving him a 72% approval rating in December. If Bush was anything other than a fanatical conservative, it was certainly news to America's conservatives.

This after-the-fact crap about Bush not really being a conservative has gotten really old.

A new word was coined to

A new word was coined to describe the Scozzafava debacle ..... Frum Dumb. 

A little perspective...

Who were they running against? Usually the winning "moderate" was the more conservative [(or ran as the more conservative (i.e. Carter, Clinton, Obama)], except for Goldwater, which everyone subsequently regretted.

TheNextRight just keeps getting better...

In the previous post, we have genius Ruffini telling us that Republicans should just change their name.

Now, we have Matthew here simply stating that - conservative, not conservative, doesn't matter boys... it's just about winning.

 

I had high hopes for Henke's blog.  Then it was just that TheNextRight was just the same as TheOldRight.

Now, I don't even think it's as good as the old right.

 

Which is just pathetic.

 

It's about good people with good conservative ideas.  None of which can be found here.

 

Cheers.

Jon Henke got major kudos

Jon Henke got major kudos from Erick the Red at RedState this week for his efforts on behalf of Doug Hoffman.  So he's clearly signed onto the Beck/Palin/Bachmann/Paul/Dick Army circus.  I was very surprised and disappointed to see him get major kudos for a campaign that fully embraced white supremacist and NeoConfederate R.S. McCain, even going so far as to give him space in their offices.

I wouldn't have believed it was possible so soon, but that collection of nutters is enough to make Bush/Cheney seem less toxic.  Now that Patrick Ruffini and Jon Henke have declared BeckLoons the way forward, I think we know what they think the Next Right should look like: sobbing, frothing, doused-in-fake-gasoline, barking madness. 

Cheap dime store analysis

I'm afraid that if you want cheap dime store analysis, you'll need to look at the premise of your own post. I actually registered to comment for the first time and had to wait several days for an ID only because I read this.

Please allow me to correct your list of presidential campaigns:

  • 1948 - Moderate Thomas Dewey (Loss)
  • 1952 - Moderate Dwight Eisenhower (Win)
  • 1956 - Moderate Dwight Eisenhower (Win)
  • 1960 - Moderate Richard Nixon (Loss)
  • 1964 -True Conservative Barry Goldwater (Loss)
  • 1968 - Conservative Richard Nixon (Win)
  • 1972 - Moderate Richard Nixon (Win)
  • 1976 - Moderate Gerald Ford (Loss)
  • 1980 - True Conservative Ronald Reagan (Win)
  • 1984 - True Conservative Ronald Reagan (Win)
  • 1988 - Conservative George HW Bush (Win)
  • 1992 - Moderate George HW Bush (Loss)
  • 1996 - Moderate Bob Dole (Loss)
  • 2000 - Conservative George W. Bush (Win)
  • 2004 - Conservative George W. Bush (Win)
  • 2008 - Moderate John McCain (Loss)

Four presidential campaigns - 1968, 1988, 2000 and 2004 - the presidents you mark as moderate ran as strong conservatives. The electorate elected them as conservatives. So the win/loss ratio for conservatives is 6-1 and the win-loss for moderates is 3-6.

I more than agree with your basic point that we need to nominate pragmatic, smart, problem-solving and solutions-oriented conservatives who can win, but the premise of your post is faulty.