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The Rules of Debate: Why McCain Wins the Style Points
First, I'm happy to see that my first instincts were the same as the McCain campaign's first instincts about last night's debate:
When I was working in Alaska, I volunteered as a debate coach at a local high school. (And just to brag, we won the state debate championship and sent four people to the national tournament.) I taught my students that in any debate of any format, great substance always has to come before great style. Great style should never make bad substance good, but it can greatly enhance good substance.
Much of the MSM and the blogosphere, especially the fact-checkers, have saturated us with important information. Right now, though, I'll share with you some of the things I taught my students back in Alaska, and using those principles, show you why McCain wins the style competition over Obama.
RULE #1: Always be on offense; never be on defense.
I tell my students that debate is like a chess game: you can't be 1 step ahead of your opponent, you have to be 10 steps ahead of your opponent. I'm a huge basketball fan as well, and when you have two teams that play with two very different styles, it's the team that controls the tempo to their liking that wins the game. As Patrick explains in the previous blog post, McCain stayed on offense last night by controlling the agenda:
"McCain did very well in keeping the debate on his own ground. Notice how long we were discussing the surge and earmarks. This is a strategy he perfected in the primaries, and it's what enabled him to win the nomination -- because the Republican base disagreed with him on everything else. He is a very insistent debater, and controlled the flow and subject matter."
He perfected this during their discussion on Iran and "negotiating with our enemies without precondition." Obama tried to come up with a different, and thus more complicated explanation of why this principle would work. At that point, McCain's hypothetical of a President Obama-President Ahmadinejad discussion: "We go over there ... he says they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth ... and we say 'no you won't?'"
RULE #2: Assume that your "judges" have no higher than a 5th grade education.
In a high school debate round, it's one or maybe a panel of three to five judges. In this debate, it's the undecided voter. Consider Obama's response when McCain knifed Obama for never going to Afghanistan or Iraq until this past summer, even with Obama chairing a committee that oversees NATO, which operates in Afghanistan:
"I'm very proud of my selection of Joe Biden as my running mate, who's the chair of the foreign relations committee. The issues of Iraq and Afghanistan did not go through my subcommittee; they went to the committee as a whole. But that's Senate inside baseball."
Why was Obama trying to defend himself by explaining Senate inside baseball? As Patrick explained earlier, "Obama is walking a fine line between professorial/detached and Zen-like/Presidential," what I like to call Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. This breaks rule #2. Professor Obama wasted 15 seconds explaining something that 99% of Americans probably understand, and don't care about. Obama has this bad habit trying to defend himself on every single detail of every single attack against him. That breaks rule #1 above.
Notice how McCain uses a few stories to explain his thinking, like the stories he used during Rick Warren's Saddleback Forum. Voters connect most with stories and easy-to-remember principles, like the princple of "responsibility" that McCain repeated over and over again during the discussion on the bailout.
RULE #3: Write the "ballot" for your "judge" through a controlled offense.
A controlled offense is something that describes a great basketball team. For NBA fans out there that will understand me, the Phoenix Suns and Golden State Warriors like to run up and down the court a lot because it puts the opposing defense on their toes all the time, making them tired. But that can lead to an uncontrolled offense that is prone to turnovers and bad shooting streaks. On the other hand, the L.A. Lakers, with Phil Jackson running their famous Triangle Offense, use a controlled formula that wins them games consistently.
The same can be said of John McCain. In most of his answers, McCain took the time to define the differences by attacking Obama every chance he could. What did Obama say three or more times? "McCain is absolutely right that ..." Hence the ad above.
Now time for Palin-Biden next Thurdsay.


Comments
This is all fine and good
But the fact remains that polls and focus groups show McCain LOST last night.
Maybe in the next few days that will change and a new narrative will emerge and McCain will rise in the polls. Anything is possible. But as of today that is not happening.
Gabriel, you are 100% poll-driven
And as my husband always reminds me, the only poll that matters is the one that happens on November 4. I won't argue with you again regarding weighted polling, or the fact that McCain had a slight bump this week when he returned to Washington, or try to convince you that there's no real way you can decisively count on these polls to be a crystal ball. They can influence one's mood for awhile, and even influence votes - which is why the exit polling data must be strictly controlled on November 4th, as we discovered in 2004.
Interestingly, Eve Fairbanks at The National Review was of the opinion that both McCain and Obama lost this debate. Given the stakes this week on the economy and McCain's 2nd Hail Mary pass in a month, I find Eve's analysis quite within the realm of possibility. While both did well in their respective areas, both could've done much better.
By the way, Matt, those were great debate pointers. Loved the basketball analogy also. ;-)
Yes
I am poll driven.
And yes, the only poll that ultimately matters is a few weeks away.
But we are all political junkies of some sort, otherwise we would not be here, right? So I am giving my opinion today based on the available evidence today. I realize it can change.
The available evidence is that Obama is now winning both in the national polls and the Electoral College, and that yesterday's debate did nothing to change that and may have even won him some points. That's all.
Too true!
We're all political junkies all right. I remember thinking, "isn't everyone this interested in politics during such a pivotal election year?" and the answer is...uh...not really. So even though we're voting for opposite teams, we definitely have that one big, unique thing in common: political junkitude.
There are only five other groups I know of who share our unwavering commitment and passion: Social Media/Marketing evangelists, Linux/Ubuntu fanatics, TwitterMoms, Huckabee supporters and Al Qaeda.
You forgot the Global warming cultists!
They are the most fanatical in promoting thier junk science religion! And its not just Al Qaeda but just about any jihadist group.
I did not know what fanaticism meant
until I got a Mac!!
That I can agree with you on.
Love the OS, hate the overpriced hardware. If apple really wanted to compete with Windows, they would offer software that allowed PC owners to install Mac OS X on their hardware. Their sales would go through the roof, but no you msut buy their hardware and join the cult.
They polled mostly Democrats
Yea. Like the CNN poll?
Read the article. You want to know why the polls are saying Obama won. Because they polled mostly Democrats.
Here is the relevant part of the CNN article:
The results may be favoring Obama simply because more Democrats than Republicans tuned in to the debate. Of the debate-watchers questioned in this poll, 41 percent of the respondents identified themselves as Democrats, 27 percent as Republicans and 30 percent as independents.
POLL RESULT: REPUBLICANS HAVE A LIFE ON FRIDAY NIGHT
Political junkies and nerds like us excepted. :-)
Alas, my friend
Too true, too true!
Obama said nothing new and lost on substance
Obama lost on substance.
Point after point that McCain made WAS NOT MADE PRIOR IN MEDIA.
Obama's points? They have been out there already. Same-old same-old.
McCain did BETTER IN THAT DEBATE THAN ANY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SINCE BUSH 1988. he beat Obama like a rented mule on the substance level, and the “Obama held his own” comments that the punditocracy likes to bandy about just measn that Obama didnt emotionally melt down and could construct sentences throughout. It doesnt mean obama said anything smart or substantive.
Obama won the debate-Time for reality-based analysis
"A new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll shows 46% of people who watched Friday night's presidential debate say Democrat Barack Obama did a better job than Republican John McCain; 34% said McCain did better."
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5902766&page=1
I know it sucks when your guy is losing but ignoring the facts is no way to win. Can't wait to see your Palin spin on Thursday. Seems you are a political cheechako.
Again dude, BS propaganda polls!
They oversampled Democrats for these polls. They are meaningless, the media is in the take for Obama.
As for the VP debate, given the fact the Joie Biden was a plagarist, has made considerable gaffes along the way of this campaign (good thing for him he is a Democrat so the media will let him get away with it) and has even admitted that hillary would have better VP choice along the fact that rumors that he will dropped from the ticket in favor of Hillary. I have also noticed when he is out on the campaign trail he draws numbers in the single digits whereas Palin has drawn considerable support.
I have seen her debates performances in the last AK governor's race and I was significantly impressed, no wonder why she beat the establishment RINO in the primary and dfeated a poluplar, former Democrat governor during a good Democrat election year. Right now I feel sorry for partisan hack Joe.
No polls showing McCain won the debate
Go figure. I am sure all the polling firms are in the tank for Obama. I guess his nose dive in the daily tracking polls is a illusion as well. America really wants a lying codger as president, they just want to mislead the pollster.
Actually there are polls indicating a McCain debate victory
There was the Fox News text poll on Hannity and Colmes, which I had to fast-forward through after the debate because I am not a big fan of either. That text debate was very odd because it showed 86% favoring McCain, which tells me that probably most Indy and Democratic viewers were watching C-SPAN or other networks. My gut tells me they were on C-SPAN.
But then there was this AOL poll showing McCain 62% to Obama 38% and this Twitter PollDaddy poll showing McCain 56%, Obama 38% and Undecided 6%. Both of these baffle me since most Twitterers seem to lean toward Obama. Republicans are a huge minority (can I say that?) on Twitter so far.
Just to top it all off, there's a report on RedState that the Obama campaign lied about Post-Debate polling in order to claim a victory.
Perhaps one of the more interesting aspects than the polls on Friday night was the ratings. According to the Hollywood Reporter, they were very average (40.1). I expect we'll see a bigger draw this Thursday night in the Vice Presidential debate.
Joke Response?
Clearly you jest. Obama won the independents. McCain is in the process of collapsing. This is going to be fun to watch. I predict he falls below 40 after the trainwreck coming on Thursday. Looks like Obama may win NC and IN, fun stuff. Time to put AK, TX and AZ in play. Get ready for the GOP end times.
Yes, why even bother with an election!
Obama is the savior that will fix everything under the glorious banner of postmodern, reformed communism. We shall simply annoint him the new commisar.
Style Points??
Every analyst and pundt and talking head out there is saying McCain made mistakes in the way he addressed Obama, in his body language, in his tone and demeanor.
It has cost him serious points among independents and especially among women, a demo he needs desperately. It has made America look at him differently, and has undone millions of dollars spent in image-building.
But to you, he wins "on style points"?? Remind me to take this analysis into account next time you post an opinion, K?
You are hopelessly in love with McSame, and could never be even halfway objective about your old man.
And to all the people here who keep trashing polls as skewed and slanted, how come they weren't skewed and slanted when Republicans were winning?
The creepy factor!
Is Sarah Palin the cause of McCain’s’, problems? I think people are starting to see that McCain’s choice for VP was more of a political stunt then a presidential decision. Palin seems to be weak in all areas of presidential requirements, and she seems to have a lot of baggage to boot. But more then that it reflects on McCain’s judgment as an elder statesman who knows that the person he picks could possibly have to step in for him in the case of sickness or death from age related issues. One of the biggest questions of the week is why McCain did not turn over his campaign to Palin during his short absence to work with congress on the financial crisis. I think the American people (other then the Neo-cons) are starting to get a very creepy feeling about Palin and that bleeds into McCain’s core understanding of his responsibilities to the American people.
Don't presume
You have a lot of presumptions about how people feel. I believe folks decided for or against Palin the minute she was announced. If you really read people's comments, you'll know this to be true. And McCain showed great judgement in getting back to his job during this horrific financial crisis - unlike Obama who had to be told to go back to work.
BTW, what makes you think Palin suspended her campaining - I didn't read that so perhaps I'm wrong?
What's with the name calling?
I'm sick of hearing of Obama being referred to as The Chosen One, the Messiah, etc. And even more sick of people referring to McCain as McSame and McShame - what are you, in 5th grade? They have names, use the ones they were born with. Resorting to name trashing is just terrible manners.
And to your question about not trashing polls when they were in favor of Republicans - the reality is that the liberal press (the majority of press) is more than happy to make up their numbers to sway the public toward an outcome, If you doubt that, you aren't paying attention. So when we do hear that the Repubs are ahead, it's cautionary. Kinda like Simon Cowell telling Sanjaya he did well so folks would disagree with him and vote him off...
Reality
So, your point seems to be that when the polls show Repubs ahead, they're "cautionary"?
So why is it that whenever ANY poll (For example, the total farce that is Zogby, AOL or any online poll) shows ANY Repub ahead in a race, it is immediately taken as a valid data point here, but whenever any poll shows any Dem ahead, it's because the poll is hopelessly skewed?
You guys are good for easy laughs, lol.
Dude, I don't usually trust polls no matter what the results.
I have noticed that most polls taken a few months before the election are propadganda polls designed to create the desired outcome by the media. The only time polls are usally done that are atually statistically accurate are the ones taken a couple of days before the election. That is because only then does the media actually care where the electorate is at in terms of candidate support. Hell the media itself is poll-driven, too many stories involve a poll rather than going out and finding out the facts of the story. This is another reason why the dinosaur media is losing audience.