What if conservatism does not drive the Republican Party?

Has the Right been approaching politics wrong all along?  The Right has not figured out good policy means to accomplish its limited government & individual freedom ends.  The Right has been good at being anti-Left, but unsure what to do once it gains power. So what has been the problem?

Friedrich Hayek's essay, Why I am Not a Conservative, contains a few points the Right should consider carefully.

Let me now state what seems to me the decisive objection to any conservatism which deserves to be called such. It is that by its very nature it cannot offer an alternative to the direction in which we are moving. It may succeed by its resistance to current tendencies in slowing down undesirable developments, but, since it does not indicate another direction, it cannot prevent their continuance. It has, for this reason, invariably been the fate of conservatism to be dragged along a path not of its own choosing. The tug of war between conservatives and progressives can only affect the speed, not the direction, of contemporary developments. [...]

Personally, I find that the most objectionable feature of the conservative attitude is its propensity to reject well-substantiated new knowledge because it dislikes some of the consequences which seem to follow from it - or, to put it bluntly, its obscurantism. [...] By refusing to face the facts, the conservative only weakens his own position.

The implication of Hayek's position is that conservatism can never achieve the vision of genuine individual freedom - it can only oppose the Left.  If that is the case, then who can achieve limited government?  The Compassionate Conservative approach has been tried, miserably (though some, like Douthat and others advocate variations on it).  The religious right seems inclined towards a Christian Democrats approach (Huckabee, et al).  There is the "energetic" and "ambitious" "national greatness" approach advocated by those like David Brooks, Bill Kristol & John McCain.  LIbertarians and many independents/moderates are inclined toward a, you know, libertarian approach.  And there is also a more moderate libertarian parternalism approach that recognizes a role for government in addressing economic issues and market failures, but focuses on optimizing defaults and preserving choices.

So, a question: If conservatism is more of a social and cultural tendency, rather than an effective political philosophy, then what should be the driving political philosophy for the Republican Party?   (NOTE: This does not imply that the Republican Party becomes inimical to conservatives; only that the "movement" be driven by a political vision, not a social/cultural tendency)

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Great Observation

I agree.

While most definitely not a scholar, everything I've read by Hayek seems to connect with me on a very deep, philosophical level.

Direction is needed if progress is to be made.

Freedom and Community

Maximum freedom for the individual.

Maximum freedom for parents to choose how to raise their children. Family is the proto-community.

Maximum freedom for a set of individuals to form a group, create a community, and choose the standards for their community.  With freedom of movement, this does not conflict with individual freedom.

In other words, an America which allows for Kiryas Joel  and San Francisco.  Letting parents choose how to educate their own children: that this is even controversial just shows how ideological the Left has become.  Letting one State permit gay marriage as the State next door forbids it, and abortion as well.

And this is all facilitated by a small federal government.  A seeming pipe dream, of course, but really the key to freedom in all its forms.

bwahaha! you shamus!

you're actually arguing in favor of a welfare-leeching shtetl? and claiming this will provide more freedom??

One Crushing Line

"The Right has been good at being anti-Left, but unsure what to do once it gains power."

I couldn't agree more with that line.  Now, I am not going to claim that spending under Bush was anywhere near Obama (see: The National Debt Road Trip), but it was an absolutely squandered opportunity when Republicans had real control, and has jaded a generation of libertarians, fiscal conservatives and independents.

I am one of them.

Libertarians were right to leave Republicans during Bush...

As we go forward in to the Broad, Sunlit, Uplands of the Dear Leader's Great Leap Forward, the proper path for Republicans is to return not simply to Goldwater's conservatism but to libertarianism itself.

This generation wants liberty, not the statist control that the Democrats offer. Understand that the Democratic platform, is, at bottom, warmed over and ginned up versions of 1930's command government, with Democrats pushing all the buttons.

It's basically a racket, with liberal Democrats from the new Nomanklatura replacing Wall Street hedge fund managers in the food chain of corruption.

There's nothing new here, only the history people don't know.  

My opinion is that...

...the GOP is more successful when advancing an agenda (whether I agree with it or not) than when engaging in ad hominem attacks.  A quick peek at #tcot on most days illustrates the point that Republicans spend more time attacking the left than advancing a positive agenda.

Leaders are aware but indifferent

The Republican leadership knows what conservatism is, they just simply continue to choose to the big power grabs. I'm surprised so many GOP'ers believe the rhetoric of small government while their leaders continue to grow the government. The GOP simply spends money on different parts of the government (ie military instead of healthcare).

When was the last time you saw a Republican vote themselves less power? When have you seen a Republican who hasn't grown the deficit? This is not a recommendation of the Democrats, but at least they practice what they preach. Democrats say they believe in big government and act on it. Republicans preach small government to their constiuents, but then vote in a different way.

As other commenters have said, small-c conservatism means maximum liberty for the individual. So yes, the freedom to own/carry guns. The freedom to teach your kids what you want. But it also means the freedom to ingest/sell drugs as long as you do no harm to another person or their property. The freedom to marry a person of the same sex. Bascially, government can no longer be used by the GOP or the Democrats to leglislate their version of morality. What I do is none of your business.

So to Jon's question: "what should be the driving political philosophy for the Republican Party?" I'm not sure since I often am confused by GOP voters. I certainly don't relate to many of them.  I know in my poor county there are plenty of "love ot or leave it" citizens who loyally vote Republican...but take full advantage of Medicaid, Foodstamps, Medicare, Social Security, and other government benefits. Do these GOP voters really want small government?

If Republicans are going to preach small government, then they need to live by it. But if they are simply an arm of the Moral Majority, then they should just be proud of it. Stop being so wishy-washy.

Here's the danger for the GOP: many of us born after the heyday of the coldwar, do not share this old school way of looking at the world. Many of us are much more clear of our Libertarianism and are perfectly okay with the world it would create. Although currenly leaderless and organizationless (Ron Paul is a just persoanlity IMHO), I think Libertarians are becoming stronger and could turn into a third party as we all mature. Then there will be no more choosing between two big-government parties.

 

 

 

 

 

libertarianism

As other commenters have said, small-c conservatism means maximum liberty for the individual.

No, not really.  That is small-l libertarianism, not small-c conservatism.  Small-c conservatism has always been mindful of the effects of liberty upon the family and 'family values'.  I believe this is the core of the secular argument against gay marriage: radically changing the traditional definition of marriage will lead to a weakening of the institution of marriage itself, even if it does increase individual liberty, and the tradeoff is not worth it.  A similar argument can be made against drug legalization.  I'm not saying they're the correct views, I'm just saying that they are examples of distinction between libertarianism and conservatism.

To suggest that conservatives become doctrinaire libertarians would be a radical suggestion indeed.  Burke would be spinning in his grave.

So to Jon's question: "what should be the driving political philosophy for the Republican Party?" I'm not sure since I often am confused by GOP voters. I certainly don't relate to many of them.  I know in my poor county there are plenty of "love ot or leave it" citizens who loyally vote Republican...but take full advantage of Medicaid, Foodstamps, Medicare, Social Security, and other government benefits. Do these GOP voters really want small government?

Well, we live in the world that exists, not the world that we wish existed.  We all drive on public roads, even though in an ideal libertarian universe, they would all be privatized.  Are libertarians filthy hypocrites for driving on public roads?

Second, I think your experience demonstrates that "GOP voters" simply want to move in the direction of smaller government, not to achieve the libertarian ideal of minimalist government.  Even George Bush, with his "radical" proposal to "privatize Social Security" back in 2005, did not propose abolishing Social Security.  I think for better or for worse, a certain level of "big government" is here to stay.  We simply don't want a government that is so big that it dominates our lives.

I repeat what I've said elsewhere: if doctrinaire libertarianism was so popular, then the LP would be a major party and the GOP would not.

Fair enough

We live in the world that exists. The GOP and Republican voters aren't looking to actually shrink the government. At least we're being honest now.

So what is the answer to Jon's question? What should the GOP actaully stand for? Right now we have a lot of rhetoric about small government and new found fiscal conservatism. "Obama is expanding the deficit by 10 trillion! We only expanded it by a trillion under Bush." Let's say the GOP has total power right now....what do you do?

I ask becasue I really don't know the answer. If the tenents of Libertarianism really are a pipe dream and the GOP stands for big government, are we now just debating what parts of the government are big? Are we just arguing where we waste our money? Are we arguing about whose morals the government will actually enforce?

Hmm...

Normally, I wouldn't post this speech in it's entirety as a comment.  That said, Jon, it's the perfect response to your question.

Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)

Conservative Political Action Conference

Washington, DC

March 1, 1975

Reagan on horsebackSince our last meeting we have been through a disastrous election. It is easy for us to be discouraged, as pundits hail that election as a repudiation of our philosophy and even as a mandate of some kind or other. But the significance of the election was not registered by those who voted, but by those who stayed home. If there was anything like a mandate it will be found among almost two-thirds of the citizens who refused to participate.

Bitter as it is to accept the results of the November election, we should have reason for some optimism. For many years now we have preached “the gospel,” in opposition to the philosophy of so-called liberalism which was, in truth, a call to collectivism.

Now, it is possible we have been persuasive to a greater degree than we had ever realized. Few, if any, Democratic party candidates in the last election ran as liberals. Listening to them I had the eerie feeling we were hearing reruns of Goldwater speeches. I even thought I heard a few of my own.

Bureaucracy was assailed and fiscal responsibility hailed. Even George McGovern donned sackcloth and ashes and did penance for the good people of South Dakota.

But let’s not be so naive as to think we are witnessing a mass conversion to the principles of conservatism. Once sworn into office, the victors reverted to type. In their view, apparently, the ends justified the means.

The “Young Turks” had campaigned against “evil politicians.” They turned against committee chairmen of their own party, displaying a taste and talent as cutthroat power politicians quite in contrast to their campaign rhetoric and idealism. Still, we must not forget that they molded their campaigning to fit what even they recognized was the mood of the majority.

And we must see to it that the people are reminded of this as they now pursue their ideological goals—and pursue them they will.

I know you are aware of the national polls which show that a greater (and increasing) number of Americans—Republicans, Democrats and independents—classify themselves as “conservatives” than ever before. And a poll of rank-and-file union members reveals dissatisfaction with the amount of power their own leaders have assumed, and a resentment of their use of that power for partisan politics. Would it shock you to know that in that poll 68 percent of rank-and-file union members of this country came out endorsing right-to-work legislation?

These polls give cause for some optimism, but at the same time reveal a confusion that exists and the need for a continued effort to “spread the word.”

In another recent survey, of 35,000 college and university students polled, three-fourths blame American business and industry for all of our economic and social ills. The same three-fourths think the answer is more (and virtually complete) regimentation and government control of all phases of business—including the imposition of wage and price controls. Yet, 80 percent in the same poll want less government interference in their own lives!

In 1972 the people of this country had a clear-cut choice, based on the issues—to a greater extent than any election in half a century. In overwhelming numbers they ignored party labels, not so much to vote for a man or even a policy as to repudiate a philosophy. In doing so they repudiated that final step into the welfare state—that call for the confiscation and redistribution of their earnings on a scale far greater than what we now have. They repudiated the abandonment of national honor and a weakening of this nation’s ability to protect itself.

A study has been made that is so revealing that I’m not surprised it has been ignored by a certain number of political commentators and columnists. The political science department of Georgetown University researched the mandate of the 1972 election and recently presented its findings at a seminar.

Taking several major issues which, incidentally, are still the issues of the day, they polled rank-and-file members of the Democratic party on their approach to these problems. Then they polled the delegates to the two major national conventions—the leaders of the parties.

They found the delegates to the Republican convention almost identical in their responses to those of the rank-and-file Republicans. Yet, the delegates to the Democratic convention were miles apart from the thinking of their own party members.

The mandate of 1972 still exists. The people of America have been confused and disturbed by events since that election, but they hold an unchanged philosophy.

Our task is to make them see that what we represent is identical to their own hopes and dreams of what America can and should be. If there are questions as to whether the principles of conservatism hold up in practice, we have the answers to them. Where conservative principles have been tried, they have worked. Gov. Meldrim Thomson is making them work in New Hampshire; so is Arch Moore in West Virginia and Mills Godwin in Virginia. Jack Williams made them work in Arizona and I’m sure Jim Edwards will in South Carolina.

If you will permit me, I can recount my own experience in California.

When I went to Sacramento eight years ago, I had the belief that government was no deep, dark mystery, that it could be operated efficiently by using the same common sense practiced in our everyday life, in our homes, in business and private affairs.

The “lab test” of my theory – California—was pretty messed up after eight years of a road show version of the Great Society. Our first and only briefing came from the outgoing director of finance, who said: “We’re spending $1 million more a day than we’re taking in. I have a golf date. Good luck!” That was the most cheerful news we were to hear for quite some time.

California state government was increasing by about 5,000 new employees a year. We were the welfare capital of the world with 16 percent of the nation’s caseload. Soon, California’s caseload was increasing by 40,000 a month.

We turned to the people themselves for help. Two hundred and fifty experts in the various fields volunteered to serve on task forces at no cost to the taxpayers. They went into every department of state government and came back with 1,800 recommendations on how modern business practices could be used to make government more efficient. We adopted 1,600 of them.

We instituted a policy of “cut, squeeze and trim” and froze the hiring of employees as replacements for retiring employees or others leaving state service.

After a few years of struggling with the professional welfarists, we again turned to the people. First, we obtained another task force and, when the legislature refused to help implement its recommendations, we presented the recommendations to the electorate.

It still took some doing. The legislature insisted our reforms would not work; that the needy would starve in the streets; that the workload would be dumped on the counties; that property taxes would go up and that we’d run up a deficit the first year of $750 million.

That was four years ago. Today, the needy have had an average increase of 43 percent in welfare grants in California, but the taxpayers have saved $2 billion by the caseload not increasing that 40,000 a month. Instead, there are some 400,000 fewer on welfare today

than then.

Forty of the state’s 58 counties have reduced property taxes for two years in a row (some for three). That $750-million deficit turned into an $850-million surplus which we returned to the people in a one-time tax rebate. That wasn’t easy. One state senator described that rebate as “an unnecessary expenditure of public funds.”

For more than two decades governments—federal, state, local—have been increasing in size two-and-a-half times faster than the population increase. In the last 10 years they have increased the cost in payroll seven times as fast as the increase in numbers.

We have just turned over to a new administration in Sacramento a government virtually the same size it was eight years ago. With the state’s growth rate, this means that government absorbed a workload increase, in some departments as much as 66 percent.

We also turned over—for the first time in almost a quarter of a century—a balanced budget and a surplus of $500 million. In these eight years just passed, we returned to the people in rebates, tax reductions and bridge toll reductions $5.7 billion. All of this is contrary to the will of those who deplore conservatism and profess to be liberals, yet all of it is pleasing to its citizenry.

Make no mistake, the leadership of the Democratic party is still out of step with the majority of Americans.

Speaker Carl Albert recently was quoted as saying that our problem is “60 percent recession, 30 percent inflation and 10 percent energy.” That makes as much sense as saying two and two make 22.

Without inflation there would be no recession. And unless we curb inflation we can see the end of our society and economic system. The painful fact is we can only halt inflation by undergoing a period of economic dislocation—a recession, if you will.

We can take steps to ease the suffering of some who will be hurt more than others, but if we turn from fighting inflation and adopt a program only to fight recession we are on the road to disaster.

In his first address to Congress, the president asked Congress to join him in an all-out effort to balance the budget. I think all of us wish that he had re-issued that speech instead of this year’s budget message.

What side can be taken in a debate over whether the deficit should be $52 billion or $70 billion or $80 billion preferred by the profligate Congress?

Inflation has one cause and one cause only: government spending more than government takes in. And the cure to inflation is a balanced budget. We know, of course, that after 40 years of social tinkering and Keynesian experimentation that we can’t do this all at once, but it can be achieved. Balancing the budget is like protecting your virtue: you have to learn to say “no.”

This is no time to repeat the shopworn panaceas of the New Deal, the Fair Deal and the Great Society. John Kenneth Galbraith, who, in my opinion, is living proof that economics is an inexact science, has written a new book. It is called “Economics and the Public Purpose.” In it, he asserts that market arrangements in our economy have given us inadequate housing, terrible mass transit, poor health care and a host of other miseries. And then, for the first time to my knowledge, he advances socialism as the answer to our problems.

Shorn of all side issues and extraneous matter, the problem underlying all others is the worldwide contest for the hearts and minds of mankind. Do we find the answers to human misery in freedom as it is known, or do we sink into the deadly dullness of the Socialist ant heap?

Those who suggest that the latter is some kind of solution are, I think, open to challenge. Let’s have no more theorizing when actual comparison is possible. There is in the world a great nation, larger than ours in territory and populated with 250 million capable people. It is rich in resources and has had more than 50 uninterrupted years to practice socialism without opposition.

We could match them, but it would take a little doing on our part. We’d have to cut our paychecks back by 75 percent; move 60 million workers back to the farm; abandon two-thirds of our steel-making capacity; destroy 40 million television sets; tear up 14 of every 15 miles of highway; junk 19 of every 20 automobiles; tear up two-thirds of our railroad track; knock down 70 percent of our houses; and rip out nine out of every 10 telephones. Then, all we have to do is find a capitalist country to sell us wheat on credit to keep us from starving!

Our people are in a time of discontent. Our vital energy supplies are threatened by possibly the most powerful cartel in human history. Our traditional allies in Western Europe are experiencing political and economic instability bordering on chaos.

We seem to be increasingly alone in a world grown more hostile, but we let our defenses shrink to pre-Pearl Harbor levels. And we are conscious that in Moscow the crash build-up of arms continues. The SALT II agreement in Vladivostok, if not re-negotiated, guarantees the Soviets a clear missile superiority sufficient to make a “first strike” possible, with little fear of reprisal. Yet, too many congressmen demand further cuts in our own defenses, including delay if not cancellation of the B-1 bomber.

I realize that millions of Americans are sick of hearing about Indochina, and perhaps it is politically unwise to talk of our obligation to Cambodia and South Vietnam. But we pledged—in an agreement that brought our men home and freed our prisoners—to give our allies arms and ammunition to replace on a one-for-one basis what they expend in resisting the aggression of the Communists who are violating the cease-fire and are fully aided by their Soviet and Red Chinese allies. Congress has already reduced the appropriation to half of what they need and threatens to reduce it even more.

Can we live with ourselves if we, as a nation, betray our friends and ignore our pledged word? And, if we do, who would ever trust us again? To consider committing such an act so contrary to our deepest ideals is symptomatic of the erosion of standards and values. And this adds to our discontent.

We did not seek world leadership; it was thrust upon us. It has been our destiny almost from the first moment this land was settled. If we fail to keep our rendezvous with destiny or, as John Winthrop said in 1630, “Deal falsely with our God,” we shall be made “a story and byword throughout the world.”

Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness.

I don ‘t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party”—when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

It was a feeling that there was not a sufficient difference now between the parties that kept a majority of the voters away from the polls. When have we ever advocated a closed-door policy? Who has ever been barred from participating?

Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

Let us show that we stand for fiscal integrity and sound money and above all for an end to deficit spending, with ultimate retirement of the national debt.

Let us also include a permanent limit on the percentage of the people’s earnings government can take without their consent.

Let our banner proclaim a genuine tax reform that will begin by simplifying the income tax so that workers can compute their obligation without having to employ legal help.

And let it provide indexing—adjusting the brackets to the cost of living—so that an increase in salary merely to keep pace with inflation does not move the taxpayer into a surtax bracket. Failure to provide this means an increase in government’s share and would make the worker worse off than he was before he got the raise.

Let our banner proclaim our belief in a free market as the greatest provider for the people.

Let us also call for an end to the nit-picking, the harassment and over-regulation of business and industry which restricts expansion and our ability to compete in world markets.

Let us explore ways to ward off socialism, not by increasing government’s coercive power, but by increasing participation by the people in the ownership of our industrial machine.

Our banner must recognize the responsibility of government to protect the law-abiding, holding those who commit misdeeds personally accountable.

And we must make it plain to international adventurers that our love of peace stops short of “peace at any price.”

We will maintain whatever level of strength is necessary to preserve our free way of life.

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.

 

Enough with Reagan already

It's strange to me how Reagan has become a diety. The speech is interesting, but just look back over what his administartion actually did. Some good, but plenty that goes against small government.

Bringing Reagan up is a great example actually. He certainly spoke a good game (and probably believed much of it)...but the reality is that his administration grew the government and the deficit. Yes, he overcame infaltion and lowered taxes....but he also spent like a teenage girl using her daddy's credit card (military spending).

And if we're talking Libertarian small government, then we should avoid looking at Reagan's secret wars in Central Amercia and Middle East escapades. He was the blushing bride during the GOP's marriage to the Moral Majority. War on drugs anyone?

So when I hear Republicans gush over Reagan, it's like liberals gushing over Kennedy. The reality of their adminstrations were deeply flawed and not examples I'd like to see us repeat....IF we are talking about a truely small government system.

Maybe

..the question should be phrased a little differently?

 

 

"Where would the GOP be without Conservatives?"

 

re: Maybe

Maybe you should read what I wrote again, and note that I said this question did not suggest conservatives be abandoned.  It merely asked whether "conservative" was an organizing doctrine for policy, and what might be a more effective political doctrine for the Right. (It can coexist with a social/cultural philosophy just fine)

Dinosaurs

propensity to reject well-substantiated new knowledge because it dislikes some of the consequences which seem to follow from it

Why do main stream Republicans keep up the losing argument that the science of global warming is in doubt?  

  1. Anti intellectualism, a traditional part of the conservative movement (think "pointy headed intellectuals").  The left has it's "primative is beautiful" anti nuclear wing too.
  2. Business corruption.  The Republican party is "influenced" by carbon producing companies.  Rightly or wrongly, Republicans more than Democrats are perceived as doing the bidding of corporations.
  3. The libertarian pain: there will be constraints or taxes on individual behavior. 

What steps should thoughtful Republicans and conservatives take to overcome party inertia and actually do something serious about global warming?  That's a question for this group.

More broadly, this blog has a habit of presenting issues or goals without suggestions of how to address them.  Sometimes, you propose painless solutions like better web technology.  What's wrong with the Republican party is the people in it -- Gingrich, Limbaugh (just two global warming deniers). If you want to get rid of the dinosaurs, you first have to figure out who they are.

 

 

Global warming? Please.....

Why do main stream Republicans keep up the losing argument that the science of global warming is in doubt? 

Um, because it is?  Stop huffing the kool aid.  There is no consensus.  There is climate change.  Right now, evidence shows cooling.  And evidence of human caused global warming has been very problematic. 

A platform for growth

I believe that the GOP should adopt a good government "platform for growth and competitiveness" agenda that includes:

  • effective education policy to ensure the competitiveness of American workers and American businesses
  • health care reform that works for all Americans and does not burden businesses and routinely threaten workers with loss of coverage
  • energy policy that addresses the price and sourcing issues as well as the genuine environmental concerns of the American people
  • market-enhancing regulation policy; we must move away from "business friendly" policies and toward a policy agenda that ensures markets work transparently and efficiently
  • genuine and effective transparency and anti-corruption agenda for government

Republicans need to get in front of the fact that the status quo is not working for many American workers and many American businesses. Americans are going to support politics that offer credible solutions and realistic change. The party of no will be kicked to the side of the road. Conservatives and Republicans must develop credible, fair and achievable policies that address the goals of American voters: success, security, and free choice.

Unfortunately, most of this agenda flies in the face of our current national caucus' corporate loyalties.

good government vs. no government

someone made this point during the 2008 election; that if all you do is blame government for problems and insist that government cannot solve any problem, no one is going to suggest you run the government. somewhere along the way, instead of advocating policies and distinguishing between good government and bad government, republicans became the "anti" crowd: anti-democrat and anti-government.

why not push for more reliance on states' rights? lower federal taxes, and force each state to tax their citizens to pay for their own needs (gov't could provide for education and interstate projects). conservatism, to me, doesn't mean no government, just a clear understanding of what a large government does best (a safety net, defense) and what it doesnt (involving itself in the business of each state, taking tax dollars to pay for local pet projects).

your point about it being a philosophy is interesting, for some, the GOP is a way of life, and there are no policies associated with that, just sort of the "with us or against us" mentality.

The Party Of "No"

I believe we should pick up the gauntlet thrown by the "D's". We should become the Party of No. And explain how things work.

Although, unicorns are magik.

But I trust and respect my fellow man. Give him pure water and watch his eyes light up!

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Very good post

If conservatism is more of a social and cultural tendency, rather than an effective political philosophy, then what should be the driving political philosophy for the Republican Party?

Almost what Obama said, 'effective government'. Republicans should definitely ditch social conservatism, and skip the small government mantra. I'm for a smaller government, but I also believe in dynamic forces. What is a 'small government?' Is there a ratio or some metric? Without that, it rings hollow. Certainly you can look at taxes but what is eating up taxes? Health, Social Security and Defense. Those are hard issues by either side to touch because no matter what stripe of person you are, these issues are very personal.

There's lots to say about all the issues that people argue over: taxes, gay marriage, religion, the budget. But ultimagely, I agree with George Will (I think it was him), that the parties have become groupings to align our animosities. Just as I hear conservatives (more likely republicans) gripe about liberal judges upholding the 'rule of law', I hear liberals talking about torture and 'upholding the rule of law'. I here 'freedom' this and 'freedom' that from the right and gays are asking for the same consideration.

I think the Republicans should be for something. It's just not small government. That vien of credibility is tapped out. Until then, they have to be against things.

 

We've been suffering without

We've been suffering without a strategic leadership in the Republican Party for some time. Why couldn't George Bush offer an amendment that a, offered Federal recognition of gay civil unions and put off "forcing" states to license such unions for some few years (20 or so) and b, broke the government monopoly power over schooling? (Easy: specify that 20% of the tax money normally collected per child for school be given to private schooled children, then up that 20% every two years until it reaches 80%. Now you have a 20% tax per child to support schools for very poor children.)

Do Evangelicals or devout Catholics really want homosexuality criminalized, or do they want more control and choice over their childrens' schooling?

As other commenters have

As other commenters have said, small-c conservatism means maximum liberty for the individual. So yes, the freedom to own/carry guns. The freedom to teach your kids what you want. But it also means the freedom to ingest/sell drugs as long as you do no harm to another person or their property. The freedom to marry a person of the same sex. Bascially, government can no longer be used by the GOP or the Democrats to leglislate their version of morality. What I do is none of your business. anunturi sanatate

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