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The State of Media on the Right
The Columbia Journalism Review has a good piece on the state of media on the Right - particularly what's happening online. This strikes me as a very clear-headed view of where we are and what our problems are.
For roughly the last twenty-five years, conservative opinion journalism has generally followed Ronald Reagan’s eleventh commandment: thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican. [...] And when they have criticized Republicans, it has usually been from the right. [...]
An even more interesting—and potentially important—aspect of this emerging ethos in conservative journalism is an acknowledgement of the need to close the reporting gap that has long existed between liberal and conservative publications. Many liberal journals, most notably Mother Jones, prize muckraking investigative reporting. The Nation funds in-depth reporting at numerous publications through its Nation Institute Investigative Fund. The Washington Monthly has a long history of burrowing deep into the public-policy-making process and lobbying. Talking Points Memo, one of the more evolved liberal news sites, won a Polk award in 2007 for its work unraveling the U.S. Attorneys firing scandal. Conservative publications, in contrast, have generally opined, with the occasional whimsical reported dispatch. Breaking hard news was simply not in their DNA. Politico’s Jonathan Martin, who briefly worked at National Review, wrote an article suggesting that this gap hurt Republicans in the election because they were not as able to drive news stories, and that it has also led to more liberal journalists than conservatives joining mainstream publications. Martin attributed the difference to one of tradition: liberal journalists grew up aspiring to be hard-nosed investigative reporters like Woodward and Bernstein, while conservatives grew up suspicious of mainstream papers and aspiring to be the next William F. Buckley Jr.
The whole thing is worth reading, but it boils down to this: The Right has been busy criticizing the media; the Left has gotten busy building it. The Left's new movement is making the news that the Right's old movement spends its time reacting to.
- Jon Henke's blog
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And of course one media
And of course one media outlet that is identified as representing the views of the right is Fox News. They draw a big audience and show that there is an appetitie for this type of reporting. However, they offer "one stop shopping" for critcism from the left. The personalities have replaced the coverage (O'Reilly, for example), and become an easy target.
I would like to see more diverse outlets of right oriented coverage. That way the reporting would not be so easily dismissed.
The current Dr. Tiller and Private Long murders are a good example. The left has controlled coverage, and put the right on defense very successfully.
The left has controlled
The left has controlled coverage, and put the right on defense very successfully.
That's not surprising, considering that anyone at, say, ThinkProgress is probably smarter than 99% of rightwing bloggers. And, considering all the mistakes TP makes, that's very, very sad.
Speaking of sad, here's something I wrote just before the election and - of course - got absolutely no support for. I don't really want the competition, but OTOH I don't expect them to pick up on it and even if they do they'll probably get distracted by a fly or something and forget all about it.
P.S. Pointing to the "tea parties" as an example of r/w reporting isn't exactly a good idea either since the organizers had no clue about how to deal with media coverage or lack thereof.
I think this criticism is unfair.
LGF broke the story about "Rathergate". Without right-wing media, the "tea parties" would've been non-events. Right-wing media was responsible for then candidate Barack Obama distancing himself from Reverend Wright. Right-wing media are the only people researching and following through on Obama's stimulus package, and his budget.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that the entire point of the article is invalid. It isn't that right-wing media has done a poor job of reporting, it's that it's done a poor job of getting those reports heard.
Why is this? It's because the left-wing media won't bother to advance any story brought up by right-wing media, or if it does mention such a story, it's with a critical eye. However, the right-wing media will do further research or advance a story initially advanced in left-wing media, such a "Troopergate" and "Plamegate".
liberal/conservative media dichotomy
It is invalid, but why?
I think the real interesting thing here is that the LIBERAL MEDIA TENDS TO IGNORE THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA UNLESS ITS UNIGNORABLE.
Exactly so. Meanwhile the conservative media is built around the 'liberal MSM' and so pays a lot of attention to the liberal media.
That's the REAL difference. The liberal media is an echo chamber and the conservative media is like the peanut gallery of critics.
Right whine
cjbreisch is right. When conservative muckrakers get the goods, they get prime time coverage. When they fail, it's because they have nothing. "Dealergate" is a good example. There was no evidence of wrongdoing. One spared dealer was a democrat. One closed dealer was a Republican. Statistically speaking, (quoting Tom Hanks from Apollo 13) that would have a tendency to happen. The statistical check -- a naive regression -- came up negative.
Conservative "gotchyas" often hinge on tortured misinterpretations. A recent example on MichelleMalkin.com involves emails from an ACORN official about plans to use Obama donor lists for fundraising. The emails clearly say that they would use published lists, but that didn't stop the huff-n-puff crowd from claiming that ACORN was colluding with the Obama campaign.
Right wing muckraking reminds me of right wing humor. My newspaper carries the comic strip "Mallard Fillmore", which is supposed to to a conservative counterbalance to Doonesbury. The difference is that Doonesbury is creative, sensitive, and funny.
argument patently false.
check out "sunday morning news" circa 2002-2006 (when the republicans were in power, and you hardly saw any Democrat show up at all)
versus now, when the republicans are all out of power, and yet they still show up about half the time.
It is obvious
The Left does not have an 11th Commandment. Obama is hearing a much criticism from people who voted for him as from people who didn't.
Come to think of it, Rush Limbaugh doesn't pay much attention to the 11th Commandment.
But it is true that the liberal blogs are light years ahead in hard news. As an example, Marcy Wheeler of Emptywheel has read thousands of boring pages of documents in order to find the parts that matter, and has broken big stories on torture using publicly available information.
TPM, like a police officer studying a serial killer operating in several jurisdictions, pulled together isolated reports of US Attorney firings and found a pattern.
Anyone on the right doing that?
Myth making
There's nobody on the right doing any investigative journalism because they spend most of their time trying to create myths.
Myths about free-markets, taxes, and the Iraq War to name a few. Just one big propaganda machine, starting with the king of propaganda, Fox News.
If the right grew up hoping
If the right grew up hoping to be the next Bill Buckley...where is he (or she)?
...the reason he hasn't been
...the reason he hasn't been replaced is because this notion doesn't really hold. Bill Buckley represented intellectualism. That is not only not valued any longer on the Right, it is openly ridiculed. Bill Buckley has been replaced by Joe the Plumber.
Liberal capture of the media ...
...is clearly revealed by this sentence from the article: "Talking Points Memo, one of the more evolved liberal news sites, won a Polk award in 2007 for its work unraveling the U.S. Attorneys firing scandal." U.S. Attorneys, distinguished from lower-level or lower ranking attorneys who work in a U.S. Attorney's Office, are purely political appointees. They have no job protections - apart perhaps from some whistle-blower and civil rights laws - and serve at the pleasure of the sitting President of the United States. The extent of the uproar over President Bush's firing of eight U.S. Attorneys and the twistings and turnings as well as the completely incompetent handling of the non-issue by his administration reveals the power of the left-dominated media. It also reveals his inability to face down the incredibly idiotic rantings that sometimes dominate the media. (Imagine, for contrast, President Harry Truman being confronted on that issue. There's an imagine for an editorial cartoon at least!) His answer ought to have been something like this: "I'm the President. They work directly for me and serve at my pleasure. No other official is required to agree with my decision and no justification or reason is required for me to fire the men and women who hold this office. If you object so strenuously to it, begin impeachment proceedings. Otherwise, end of story." Note also that none of the outraged editors, commentators, or pundits seemed to recall that President Clinton fired all 92 of the U.S. Attorneys and that the media made nothing of it at the time. The liberal/progressive ... whatever label you care to use, the dominance of the media by President Obama's supporters seems quite complete and unshakeable. And Republicans and other conservatives are, as several have mentioned, chasing their own tails as it were rather than doing something constructive about the situation. Ah, well.
This comment cristallizes why
This comment cristallizes why you guys are wandering in the wilderness and will continue to do so for some time to come. The DOJ until the last administration was with few exceptions that were quickly remedied (back when there were actual honorable conservatives) non partisan and above reproach. The Nixon hearings took about 3 weeks as I recall.
TPM is a premier investigative news outfit, focused on the truth and following the facts -- where ever they lead. Remember the truth? Back when the Rs used to be about facts, common sense and good government?
As Colbert so aptly remarks: "Facts? Who needs facts? Facts have a well known liberal bias!"
Until you guys focus on the truth instead of your undeniably repudiated ideology and the comfy little echo chamber you inhabit, you are well and truly screwed.
This country needs two functioning parties. I applaud Jon for at least having an inkling of the problem. His thoughtful posts (as opposed to the absolute garbage elsewhere in the wingnuttosphere) are one reason I continue to visit this blog.
TPM "follows the truth wherever it leads"?
Sorry, I call BS.
So TPM is front and center with Dealergate, right? Oh, wait, no they're not. They don't have a single article up there about it.
But, certainly they have investigative articles devoted to ACORN voter registration fraud? Nope. The only thing at TPM concerning ACORN scandals are derisive comments lambasting Republicans overhyping the fears, despite the fact that ACORN workers have actually been indicted for voter registration fraud.
But, certainly they are investigating the PMA scandal? Sure, they have a few token articles up there, mostly just reprints of MSM articles.
But - whoa, and check this out - they have an ENTIRE section devoted to GOP scandals. And another ENTIRE section devoted to the U.S. Attorney firings non-scandal.
TPM is a leftist outfit that specializes in investigating Republican corruption. Oh sure they have a few token articles about Democrat corruption, just so they can keep their bona fides as "investigative" rather than "partisan", and so they can claim with a straight face that they go after "both sides" and it's not a complete lie. But, make no mistake about it, they are far more interested in Republican corruption. And the original poster's claim, that the media has become totally captured by the left when they give awards to a liberal website for investigating a "scandal" in which NOTHING ILLEGAL OCCURRED and in which presidents have done the exact same thing since the founding of the Republic (but it somehow only becomes scandalous because George Bush does it), is completely valid.
bull fucking shit.
you name me forty republicans that bill clinton's attorneys went after, in clear preference over democrats doing far worse things. That should be easy, if it was in fact true.
Faxes made on the office copier ... This is what you think is a normal, not politically motivated, reason to go after a highly decorated 70-year-old coroner?
Baloney.
orly? mary beth buchanan ring a bell?
Crazy cat lady still hasn't resigned!
Because of this, Obama has been unable to make an appointment of a new US Attorney.
Et tu?
ACORN? Dealergate? Wow, you don't get out (from under your rock) much, do you?
I (you) rest my case...
TPM
But if TPM is just interested in following the truth wherever it leads, where is their insightful investigative analysis, if only to say "we looked into it and found nothing"? Instead there is complete silence. Hell, where is their ENTIRE section on Jack Murtha alone, whose legendary corruption goes all the way back to the 1980's? They are only marginally interested in Democrat scandals and to hold them up as a "premier investigative news outfit" only belies your own liberal bias.
Moreover, where is their drumbeat of articles and exposes on the PMA scandal? They give only token lip service to it.
Yes Vern ACORN. Dealergate.
And you don't have a case.
ACORN may well be one of the most corrupt and influential organizations in the country, and NO ONE is investigating. For now.
I have to laugh at Obama on "dealergate". He didn't think this one through any more than he did the Gitmo closing. Our "three dimensional chess player" has painted himself into a corner once again, and this one will be the gift that keeps on giving.
You see, Obama is screwed on the whole GM/Chrysler bailout. Having chosen to take such a high profile role, he will become entangled politically in every decision made. Opening plants. Closing plants. Layoffs. All will beg the question "why did he choose to do that rather than this . . .after all we're voters too . . ."
And I would wait a few election cycles before you decide that the U.S. doesn't have two fully functioning parties. These things tend to be cyclical and if you paid a little bit of attention to history you would know that.
more on TPM
Oh, the timing couldn't be more perfect...
From that vaunted "premier investigative news outfit" TPM:
"At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers?"
No THAT is simply awesome!
At least Galileo got house arrest!
Of course, that was in the 1600's.
I hope the church of Gore doesn't start to demand that we recant or face the consequences.
hilarious comment
when you consider that the Church of Plato (the Jesuits) was instrumental in Galileo's house arrest.
You're missing the point
Of course TPM has a point of view. They're pretty open about their politics. What does that have to do with anything?
Jon-question
I'm not a media insider (obviously) and I would like to have a better understanding of this issue.
Today we see this from the Washington Post. The author seems to be arguing the opposite point.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/06/04/rush_and_newt_are_winning_96824.html
Is this all a matter of perception?
Confirmation Bias
Everybody sees what they want to see. Especially when there is so much evidence for whatever they want to see. The "conservative media" and "liberal media" criticisms are unsophisticated and inadequate to explain the problems.
well said
there is so much "media" that you can make a point for either case. i can find plenty of obama criticism from "liberal" sources, and plenty of obama criticism on the right. same for bush.
it's important to distinguish between news and media. everything is sensationalist now...you need a story every 2 minutes. even if nothing major happens. so when there is no news, you just have loud, annoying people (olbermann, beck, etc) complaining.
drudge report used to be good for "right" news, but he lost a lot of credibility with the last election (showing outlier polls when it was clear obama was leading by a significant margin) and that hurts the right's case that their news is real news, too.
there's an easy way around the confirmation bias.
Look at who is more articulate, the conservative commentators or the liberal ones. Who makes the objectively better arguments. Back in the day, it was Buckley. Now, it's most often the liberals.
The media is biased away from the articulate commentators.
But really, it's all corporate media now, and if you have to ask what the media will shill... ask what benefits GE, or the holding company of your choice.
Your point, of course, is that the Right needs a TPM?
So WE'LL act like the trained Rhoesus Monkeys over at TPM with their Soros money and investigate only Democratic Scandals?
Jesus. TPM won that award because the people giving out the award were both professional jouranalists and, I suspect, people who were happy with the political result of the investigation. The US attorney scandal is one of the biggest invented scams since the Valerie Plame "scandal".
If I had my own bought and paid for State Media I could invent scandals, too.
Which, of course, is your whole point: we need our own trained Monkeys like Yglesias and Josh Marshall who are at the beck and call of some rich Republican and who's mission in life is to investigate Democrats. That will eventually happen, but first the Right needs to grow a freaking brain, re-read Rules for Radicals, and understand that Democrats practice scorched earth politics and that two need to play at that game.
Bush never got that. Which is why he ended up like his Dad.
the vast rightwing conspiracy is bored and wandered off...
and you want another? so soon?
(actually, he found a Monica Lewinsky clone to commit adultery with)
The point is, stop taking
The point is, stop taking scraps from the liberal media. Example: You are thrown a bone like 'dealergate' and you run with it like a pack of hungry wolves. Stop the madness! Wait, don't. :)
ACORN and Dealergate
Of course TPM comes from a left POV.
The point is that when you raise things like ACORN and dealergate you telegraph that you're not much more informed than a FReeper. Therein lies madness.
As Jon points out, TPM et al currently drive the meme. You're "free marketeers", right?
Media is a market and TPM et al have provided a product that sells. Influential people read it because it has provided consistently reliable info. Right now, that info makes most of you weep and wail and gnash your teeth. But if you'll step away from FReeperland for a moment, you'll begin to realize that in essence it boils down to a couple of things:
1. Willingness to be guided by facts and evidence.
2. Loyalty to the truth.
If you think ACORN and dealergate are actual issues, then you're pretty much not even in the game -- you're gnawing on some meatless bone thrown out by Beck or Malkin.
You make a fair point
about the commercialization of a website. There has to be a market.
However, I wouldn't equate "facts, evidence, loyalty and truth" to commercial success, unless you want to say that the supermarket tabloids are successful for the same reason. So we know that media can successfully sell something other than the truth.
Also, Beck probably producers more dollars for Fox than TPM does as an enterprise.Malkin also has a market. Are you saying that they are guided by the same principles?
Random thought: NYT circulation is declining while WSJ is climbing. Why? It has to be content, right? (Thats a serious question, I don't know what other dynamics are in play).
ACORN will be a story this year. Someone will break it wide open.
Dealergate is, as I said, a funny side note. I doubt that anyone got a list out to see who contributed to who, but I bet they will when the GM starts closing dealershipsin order to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Not a good business model. Every decision that affects jobs or investors will be viewed as political. This may not be fair, and certainly wasn't intended, but it will happen none the less.
Impact vice $
I intended impact, consistent with Jon's post.
There is no doubt that Beck can deliver an audience and revenue.
But I'd submit that if you want to have a "Next" Right, you aren't if you're depending on Beck's ruddy faced fascist, christianist viewers.
I'd estimate that's about 70% of the 22% or so that are still willing to ID as Rs. If you don't change that, you might as well be Whigs...
I'm not here to defend Beck
Although he does push some buttions of those on the left, and that is fun to watch occasionally.
You do realize that most people are Independents?
Latest Generic Congreesional poll from RCP shows democrats up 41% to 36.3%.
So I would say with all of this massive Obama momentum, that haymaker punch has yet to be delivered, unless you want to be giddy over a 4 point spread. 2010 may be a very rough year for democrat gains if the economy doesn't start to improve soon.
I do
I do understand that Independents rule.
I consider myself to be one although I freely admit, if pushed, I'd add myself to the D column most of the time.
Right now I have no other credible choice. I think that's true of most independents right now.
I predict that's not going to change significantly by 2010 regardless of what happens in the economy. Your guys pretty much wrecked the world. Most of us keenly understand that and that it will take much time and effort to fix it.
I'll even stipulate that no matter what O does, it's not going to be like it was, probably ever. We'll be lucky to have 1% or so growth on a sh*tty base (a 30% or so contraction).
But if you expect to regain power (or even make gains), that would necessitate more than "NO" and the fevered and ignorant as most of your base, as well as some considerable period of time to restore trust that Rs can actually be permitted to govern again.
A 30% contraction?
When do you think that will hit?
1% growth? After nearly $1 Trillion in stimulous spending? And you think you will be able to put those goat horns on Bush?
Really Gracie?
I have been waiting for this comment from the left:
Bush screwed things up so badly they can never be fixed by anyone. So much for hope and change.
Yep.
When almost 40% of the economy was trading crazy leveraged paper and a lot of the rest was related to flipping houses, the math isn't very hopey or changey my right wing friend...
10-10-08 changed everything.
the world will never be the same.
However, it won't be as different as you think. The age of American-centric business is now over. You may go about your business, that age ain't never comin' back. Simple consumer demographics (which I know is your specialty, not mine).
You are correct
If you are saying that American buying habits have probably shifted forever, well after this recession ends. Shopping habits that are being adopted now will stay with us for a long time.
Not sure what you mean about the age of American centric business being over.
American businesses will need to produce for a wider market
... find products that sell in a more globalized world. For many years (since around the fifties), the philosophy has been "make it for America" -- there was enough of a wealthy market that it would be bought. Now, corporations will need to rely more on exports...
Obviously this argument doesn't hold for ALL service jobs, but it does for places like universities (look at CarnegieMellon).
Its interesting when you start looking at
"winners" and "losers" (products) in this economy. The shifts within demographic groups has been facinating.
But it looks like this recession along with the financial (credit) implications will result in a generational shift in spending habits.
Trader Joe's is making out like a bandit
discount grocery store? check
accepts foodstamps? check
sells Marcona Almonds and black truffle flatbread at rock bottom prices? check.
perfectly situated to make buying cheaper a dignified and enriching experience.
What's fun is watching Wallmart start to lose it's profit margin. Figure they've finally bled Rural America for all that it can take.
What springs to mind with you, in terms of winners and losers?
We don't have Trader Joes
We don't have Trader Joes down here yet. Hopefully they will be coming soon.
Grocery stores in general are winning. Restaurantrs are losing. But McDonalds is winning with its dollar menu. People trade down by either not eating out or going to a cheaper restaurant. Private Label is winning big. Actually, Walmart is doing well volume wise. One stop shopping is cheaper than multiple trips.
They "affordable indugence" trend is very interesting.People are treating themselvse to small indulgences, and as a result premium chocolate makers are doing great. Seems counterintuitive, doesn't it?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123069062782044697.html
NPR as example
http://mashable.com/2009/06/03/npr/
NPR would be a evil liberal news outlet, but they are also incredibly successful. People even GIVE them money every quarter. No commercials.
I think Jon's post is simply pointing out that you can't just build a propaganda machine on a couple pundits with strong persoanlities. You need to build an organzation that searches and respects facts. Yes, you (and NPR) can have an agenda, but it's strengthened by research and reporting.
The Right has also run from any kind of local reporting. This is one reason why Rush is always screaming about the boogieman Fairness doctrine. He does not want ANY requirement for local news stations to have local news. They like computer operated radio stations with pre-programmed content from far away. This is strange for a people who like "down home" things.
I would love to see more conservative media outlets go beyond the talking points and really get into facts. Long stories. Let people talk. Discussion. Listening.
Question
How would what you're proposing be different from what NPR already does?
What an idiotic article...
what sort of hacker aspires to be Woodward?
Believe it or not, some people are actually interested in facts. It's kinda fun.
The Idea that conservatives feel like they have to engineer fact-oriented people is just more support for the authoritarian mindset of many modern conservatives (umm... technical terms alert. not insults. )
Journalism in Chicago ? At Columbia ? Journalism is Dead.
You gotta be kidding.....A Columbia Univ. publication on Conservative Journalism. That is hilarious.
The White House Press Corp nowadays is producing what ?
How to worship Obama by Ignoring all the historic Journalism that has gone before ?
I do not see Journalism in publications....Time...Newsweek....etc...All I see is Obama's Picture all the time.
News media is dying.....but Chris Matthews and George Stephanopolis are "reporters"....sure, right, I'm sure they are very representative of Journalism and how its done on Todays news....Then there is Katy Couric....another mental Giant.
State Run Media is not Free Press Journalism.
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