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Facts Matter

Submitted by Jon Henke on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 23:21
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The Politico's Ben Smith: "[A McCain campaign call] was so rife with simple, often inexplicable misstatements of fact that it may ... deepen the perception, dangerous to McCain, that he and his aides have little regard for factual accuracy."

McCain campaign's Michael Goldfarb: “[The Politico is] quibbling with ridiculously small details when the basic things are completely right.”

Me: Details are important.  Get them right.  Until you can manage that, don't complain about the media.

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Facts do matter. . .

Submitted by Walt Gilbert on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 23:28.

. . .and I hope you CC'd Ben Smith on that point.

You sir, are obviously

Submitted by carltonyates on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 00:04.

In the tank for Obama. Cheap joke I know, but color me dumbfounded that Rogers could not restrain himself. Such a undisciplined response to a influencer deserves a demotion. He needs to spend some time in the minors. Send him to Fairbanks.

facts matter, but...

Submitted by Xrlq on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 06:16.

Tanks matter, too.

Facts matter only for the Republicans

Submitted by Big Ben 4 liberty on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 09:02.

they don't matter for the Democrats.  Don't you understand how the media's double standard works?

Facts

Submitted by gunthestops on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 10:28.

Just a few facts to think about:

The worst terrorist attack in American history happened under a Republican president.
The only president in the last 28 years that had a budget surplus was a Democrat.
When Bush took office gasoline was about $1.50 and it is about $3.50 now.
Under the Bush administration the dollar has fallen about 35%.
Under the Bush administration we have the worst credit crisis since the great depression.
 Under the Bush administration the national debt went from $5.5 trillion to $9.75 trillion becoming making this Republican administration the biggest spenders in the history of the world.
Since Reagan the national debt has increased 1700% and only temporarily leveled off under Clinton.
Supply side economics works on paper, but has failed miserably as demonstrated by it use since the Reagan administration when applied to the actual governmental process.
Giving a tax cuts on one side of the ledger and looting from the other side of the ledger (the treasury) is nothing more than stealing from the future. Tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts are not real tax cuts they are tax shifts.
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On the other hand, blaming the media for your problems is not a fact—it is an opinion and a very poor one at that.

 

Since I'm on a rant!

Submitted by gunthestops on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 11:47.

Facts do matter:

I love it when Republicans get on their high horse and cloak themselves in a “Holier Then Thou” attitude about earmarks, especially after the Democrats took control congress.   Since total spending on earmarks is such a small part of the budget it becomes a canard for avoiding the real issues. Earmarks are actually less then the total amount of foreign aid in most cases (that’s not to say that both parties have not shamefully abused the system). Interesting that the Republicans when they were in control for the first six years did not have a single spending bill vetoed by the Bush administration. The Democrats and Republicans have been disgraceful when it comes to government spending and taxation. But the Republicans are really pathetic in their hypocrisy about the reckless financial direction they have put us on for debt and deficits and regulatory oversight.    

 

You've Convinced Us All, Gunthestops

Submitted by BradleyTank on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 12:22.

I guess you're right, the Democrat Party really is the Party of less taxes and less government spending (except for all those tax increases they're always proposing, and all those new entitlements they're always demanding like Welfare and Universal Health Care)

I was a Republican, but your brilliant posts have made me see the err in my ways. The Democrats are the party of fiscal restraint (like the Great Society programs) Thank You for saving my soul.

Your posts are a lot like a crazy preacher screaming at people on a street corner that they're all going to hell. You're wasting you're time, but by all means keep doing it if it keeps you out of trouble.

<whispered voice> Psst, The facts are that in their minds is

Submitted by Big Ben 4 liberty on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 12:56.

that all good things happen because of the Democrats and all bad things happen because of Republicans.  Don't try and ruin their worldview they only become more enraged.

Let's get personal then!!!

Submitted by gunthestops on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 14:34.

 

You two clowns may want to go back and read what I wrote again---there is no excuse for either party---but being illiterate is not an excuse to be a republican, just a benefit to those who want to take advantage of you!

 

I'm not crazy! You're the one who's crazy!

Submitted by BradleyTank on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 14:53.

I guess we hit a nerve.

You come on a conservative site to try and bash Republicans. Brilliant. Take a bow.

There might be greener pastures elsewhere for your profound message, because here we're all just ignoring your silly rants.

Abraham Lincoln said, "You

Submitted by johnsmth15 on Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:01.

Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time." testking 642-901

Unfortunately, the future of this country, as well as the fate of the Western world, depends on how many people can be fooled on election day, just a few weeks from now.

Right now, the polls indicate that a whole lot of the people are being fooled a whole lot of the time. testking 350-030

The current financial bailout crisis has propelled Barack Obama back into a substantial lead over John McCain-- which is astonishing in view of which man and which party has had the most to do with bringing on this crisis. testking 350-050

Abraham Lincoln said, "You

Submitted by johnsmth15 on Fri, 07/24/2009 - 07:02.

Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time." testking 642-901

Unfortunately, the future of this country, as well as the fate of the Western world, depends on how many people can be fooled on election day, just a few weeks from now.

Right now, the polls indicate that a whole lot of the people are being fooled a whole lot of the time. testking 350-030

The current financial bailout crisis has propelled Barack Obama back into a substantial lead over John McCain-- which is astonishing in view of which man and which party has had the most to do with bringing on this crisis. testking 350-050