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Submitted by Ironman on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 00:22
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.Waxman to push global warming bill


By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 01/15/09 11:22 AM [ET]

Comprehensive global warming legislation will be sent to the House floor by Memorial Day, House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) announced Thursday.

 

 

Bitter cold settles over wide swath of US

By David Sharp

 

Associated Press Writer / January 15, 2009

  

PORTLAND, Maine—A bone-numbing blast of arctic air settled over the Northeast for an extended stay with extreme temperatures Thursday that fell to 38 below zero in northern Maine, cold enough to idle ski lifts, silence snowmobiles and send people indoors.

 

I'm sure the subzero temperatures tonight across the Northeast explain why we should add hundreds of billions to the federal deficit to deal with warming. I'm just not quite sure why.

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Cue the whining:

Submitted by centerfire on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 01:27.

"Weather isn't climate!"

 

weather is climate dependent though.

Submitted by RisingTide on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 11:22.

you guys apparently all missed the lectures on chaos theory and temperature.

The prediction for NA in terms of "what effect will global warming have" has been "more storms, more energy in the system that needs stirring up (going from equator to poles)" and yes, some warming (two degrees of change is an awful lot in this scenario). But it says nothing about droughts, waves of snow in Seattle, etc. other than to say "things will change". Again, this is my popscience "I actually listen when scientists are on TV" view. I mean, if they can't even get the pace of polar melting right, why should we expect exact predictions in a particular timezone???

What does this mean? Anything unusual is likely to be part of the global warming phenomenon, and we don't really have enough data and models to figure out what the likely stuff is going to be.

Monitoring weather and climate is notoriously difficult.

So if they aren;t accurate a week out with forecasts

Submitted by Ironman on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 20:18.

We should bet $10 Trillion that they are right 50 years from now.

This is "chaos theory" all right. ......which is a fancy way of saying they have no bleepin idea why things happen and are simply pulling an answer out of their lowest orifice. 

Don;t try junk sceince on a glass eyed banker. 

Forget it.

Submitted by chemjeff on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 23:19.

Forget it, Ironman, the science of global warming doesn't really matter anymore to the left.  They have come to believe it with a faith-like adherence.  It is just like John Kerry said during his campaign: even if global warming turns out to be false, let's do cap-and-trade anyway, because the result will be a cleaner environment regardless!  Never mind, of course, what it will do to the economy.  That isn't really a consideration when contemplating Mother Gaia.

Sarah Palin has more reason to believe in AGW than I do

Submitted by Ironman on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 00:10.

It is 39 right now in Wasilla, AK

http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/coldandflu/local/USAK0264?lswe=Wasilla,%20AK&lwsa=Weather36HourColdAndFluCommand&from=searchbox_typeahead

It is 8 in CT

http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/coldandflu/local/USCT0033?from=recentsearch

Wow, Ironman, once again you've nailed it!

Submitted by NextRightNando on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 12:11.

All those scientists with their advanced degress and years of training, all the time they spend studying masses of data - and you confound them all by reporting two headlines that appeared in the paper on the same day.

Bravo!

Well, I'm not expert at reading prehistoric tree rings

Submitted by Ironman on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 20:13.

But I DO know that this was the actual, real world temperature as I put my son on the bus this morning in "temperate" southern Connecticut

Current conditions

-8°

As of 5:53 AM ESTat Meriden, Connecticut
Clear
Temperature:
Wind chill: -8°
Wind: Calm
Dewpoint: -12°
Humidity: 83%
Visibility: 8.0 miles

Might I suggest to the Left that if a couple of hot days justifies the deindustrialization of western civilization, the coldest weather I've experienced south of Albany is an equally strong argument not to tax the American economy back to the Stone Age.

 

Deindustrialization?

Submitted by LnGrrrR on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 20:51.

A bit hyperbolic, aren't we?

well, let's take this bill

Submitted by Ironman on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 21:07.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/FC/2008HB-05600-R000755-FC.htm

I have no doubt that the stated goals will be missed in this bill, and the CT politicians will blantantly ignore the fact they wasted their time on useless legislation; but it will be grapeshot for liberal lawyers to tie up all that infrastructure stuff Obama wants in reams of lawsuits

) It shall be the goal of the state to reduce emissions of greenhouse gas in order to make an appropriate contribution to achieving the regional goals of reducing emissions of greenhouse gas to those levels emitted in 1990, which reduction to occur not later than January 1, 2010, and to levels ten per cent below the 1990 levels not later than January 1, 2020. The Commissioner of Environmental Protection shall consult with the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers to establish a date for the long-term regional goal of reducing the emissions of greenhouse gas by seventy-five to eighty-five per cent below 2001 levels. If the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers has not established a date for such long-term regional goal by January 1, 2007, the date for reaching such goal shall be 2050

Now,. barring some unforeseeable technological advance, how is a state whose population is already substantially larger than it was in 1990 or 2000 going to get anywhere near these goals without outsourcing every possible CO2 source beyond New England?

This is like King Canute telling the tide not to come in. But the good King didn't try and banish all his subject''s burning of turf and coal to prevent it.